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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2781 Postby Cerlin » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:13 pm

I nicely asked the kind weather gods to drop some snow on OKC/Norman only this weekend. They are happily obliging and have updated those changes in the weather models. :spam:

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In all seriousness, I know this isn’t texas but it’s odd to see the globals giving into the idea of thermal wet bulb cooling due to higher precipitation rates. At least that seems to be what’s happening, anyone else have any takes on this or is this just model gunk? Euro is doing it too oddly enough.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2782 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:15 pm

:uarrow:

Good Grief! That reminds me closer to the December 30th, 2020 Suprise Snowstorm

I may get all of the winter fun! That was not there Yesterday! :jump:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2783 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:25 pm

Just got the Forecast from KWTV-News 9 at 4:15 PM

EXTREMELY COLD Temperatures are expected next week, & it's only getting started . . . :cold: :froze: :cold:

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2784 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:34 pm

FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2785 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:37 pm

Brent wrote:FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck


My Grandmother remembered back in the 1990s, there were Snowstorms/Ice Storms every week or so in Winter while living in Arlington.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2786 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:45 pm

Brent wrote:FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck


You spoke too soon.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2787 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:56 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck


You spoke too soon.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_44.png


That's a fake screen grab, where's the DFW Snow Hole?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2788 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:02 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck


You spoke too soon.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_44.png


That's a fake screen grab, where's the DFW Snow Hole?


Don't worry it's got 11 days to show up :spam:

Oh and that was just what the NWS expects in the next week
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2789 Postby Haris » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:06 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck


You spoke too soon.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_44.png


That’s a totally different system an eternity away.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2790 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:08 pm

Haris wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:FWD seems to be expecting freezing rain if there's any frozen precip yuck


You spoke too soon.

https://s2.gifyu.com/images/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_44.png


That’s a totally different system an eternity away.


May be, but I had to mention it . . .
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2791 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:23 pm

CPC is bullish on the potent cold snap about to grip the US. When they pull out the deepest purple markers you know confidence is quite high, memorable cold snap. Probably a handful of times for large real estate, all of which typically produces the coldest air in a span of a few years.

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This second map has been expanded westward, as typical with deep, dense cold air having an easy time down the lee of the Rockies.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2792 Postby funster » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:37 pm

Interesting charts. They also put most of Texas in the "much below normal temperatures" region on the threats page - correlating with the dashed area in the second map you shared. "One change from the previous outlook is the expansion of the moderate risk area to include more of Texas and the western Gulf Coast as today’s reforecast tools have increased chances of more than 40 percent that minimum temperatures fall into the lowest 15th percentile. Given the predicted pattern with surface high pressure nosing southward across the Great Plains, a frost could extend to the lower Rio Grande Valley."
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... hreats.php

Ntxw wrote:CPC is bullish on the potent cold snap about to grip the US. When they pull out the deepest purple markers you know confidence is quite high, memorable cold snap. Probably a handful of times for large real estate, all of which typically produces the coldest air in a span of a few years.

https://i.imgur.com/D4VUfeq.gif

This second map has been expanded westward, as typical with deep, dense cold air having an easy time down the lee of the Rockies.

https://i.imgur.com/HOblgMI.png
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2793 Postby Ralph's Weather » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:45 pm

Its not often that SHV NWS has D7 frozen precip. They have rain, snow, freezing rain mix for Wed night and Thu with a high of 39 Thu.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2794 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:45 pm

funster wrote:Interesting charts. They also put most of Texas in the "much below normal temperatures" region on the threats page - correlating with the dashed area in the second map you shared. "One change from the previous outlook is the expansion of the moderate risk area to include more of Texas and the western Gulf Coast as today’s reforecast tools have increased chances of more than 40 percent that minimum temperatures fall into the lowest 15th percentile. Given the predicted pattern with surface high pressure nosing southward across the Great Plains, a frost could extend to the lower Rio Grande Valley."
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... hreats.php

Ntxw wrote:CPC is bullish on the potent cold snap about to grip the US. When they pull out the deepest purple markers you know confidence is quite high, memorable cold snap. Probably a handful of times for large real estate, all of which typically produces the coldest air in a span of a few years.

https://i.imgur.com/D4VUfeq.gif

This second map has been expanded westward, as typical with deep, dense cold air having an easy time down the lee of the Rockies.

https://i.imgur.com/HOblgMI.png


They also have an analog package section. The set of them favors a trend of more cold down the plains, which is where the models may continue to migrate though the whole eastern US is at risk with this big pool of cA air mass. But the idea of it sliding to east is slowly dwindling.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2795 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:
funster wrote:Interesting charts. They also put most of Texas in the "much below normal temperatures" region on the threats page - correlating with the dashed area in the second map you shared. "One change from the previous outlook is the expansion of the moderate risk area to include more of Texas and the western Gulf Coast as today’s reforecast tools have increased chances of more than 40 percent that minimum temperatures fall into the lowest 15th percentile. Given the predicted pattern with surface high pressure nosing southward across the Great Plains, a frost could extend to the lower Rio Grande Valley."
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... hreats.php

Ntxw wrote:CPC is bullish on the potent cold snap about to grip the US. When they pull out the deepest purple markers you know confidence is quite high, memorable cold snap. Probably a handful of times for large real estate, all of which typically produces the coldest air in a span of a few years.

https://i.imgur.com/D4VUfeq.gif

This second map has been expanded westward, as typical with deep, dense cold air having an easy time down the lee of the Rockies.

https://i.imgur.com/HOblgMI.png


They also have an analog package section. The set of them favors a trend of more cold down the plains, which is where the models may continue to migrate (though the whole eastern US is at risk with this big pool of cA air mass.

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I'm now under the High Risk for "Much Below Normal Temperatures" from the CPC :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2796 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:47 pm

Triple Trouble Winter Weather from 18z GFS :eek:

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24-hour Snowfall (Something went wrong on Tropical Tidbits, but Pivotal Weather is fine)

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Very cold for several days to come :froze:

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GFS-Para has stopped working again . . . :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2797 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:50 pm

18z GEFS at +180 hours, all but 2 members want winter precip for Texas & Oklahoma at that hour :D

(Ensemble Memeber #18 has some Ice in Far Southern Texas if you look closely, & #11 in Far Northeast Oklahoma)

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2798 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:36 pm

The 18z GEFS Ensemble model run is done


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My Personal favorites are Members 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 & 18.

For DFW, it's 3 & maybe 4.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2799 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:01 pm

Final Update for 2.4.2021 on WinterWX odds in Oklahoma & Texas
Part 1

Confidence for Snow on Saturday in
    NE Oklahoma: 100% (I'm calling it)
    Central Oklahoma: 70%

Impacts:
    NE Oklahoma: High
Central Oklahoma: Moderate/Enchanced

My Discussion:
    Almost all models are calling for snow in NE Oklahoma & Central Oklahoma. (Note: The Snow in Central Oklahoma highly depends where the rain mixes/changes with/to snow.)
    The snow will arrive Saturday Evening & end early Sunday Morning moving from Northwest to Southeast.
    Totals are not fully set yet, but generally 1-3 inches of snow & up to 4 in heavier pockets & in snow bands.
    Impacts will be high in NE Oklahoma with snow-covered roads, very slick bridges, & travel is not recommended.
    Slighty Lower in Central Oklahoma with slushy roads, slick bridges & travel is not advised.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2800 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:46 pm

(Note: This is a big post)
Part 2 (and Final) of the final WinterWX odds on 2.4.2021

Confidence for the Polar Vortex on the 2nd week of February: 90%

Discussion:
    All models are extremely consistant for the polar vortex to dive down into the Midwest by the 2nd week of February.
    There was some models for the system to jog eastward towards the Great Lakes up to 18z, but now that possibility is now likely gone.
    Temperatures will fall well below freezing & may stay that way for DAYS, including Texas & Oklahoma.
    Wind Chills can fall down to -10°F in some areas depending on the wind.
    Temperatures can fall down to near zero in Northern Oklahoma.
    This polar vortex increases the chances for severe winter storms across the Southern Plains

Confidence for a Winter Storm in the Southern Plains Late Next Week: 60%

Impact levels:
(NOTE: All Severe impact zones are generally east of US-283)
    North-Central Texas: Elevated
    North Texas: Elevated/Enhanced/High
    Along the Red River bordering Texas & Oklahoma: High/Moderate
    South of I-40 & West of US-183 in Oklahoma: Moderate/Enhanced
    North of I-40 & West of US-183 in Oklahoma: Enhanced/Elevated
    Between I-35 & US-183 in Oklahoma: Elevated/Low
    NW Oklahoma & NE Panhandle Texas: Low
    SW Oklahoma: Minimal

My Discussion & Potental Totals:
    Increasing confidence on Several Models for a winter storm in the Southern Plains Late Next week has allowed me to set up impact zones in Northern Texas & the Main portion of Oklahoma.
    The Only model that has zero snow is the CMC model from 12z
    Even though the Storm timeline is from Thrusday Night to Friday Evening.
    Up to .1 inch of Ice is possible in North-Central Texas, up to 1/4 inch in Northern Texas
    Considerable amount of Sleet is possible from Southern Oklahoma to Northern Texas, generally 2-3 inches with up to 4-5 inches of Sleet
    Central Oklahoma & The Dallas Metroplex can have around .5 inch to 2 inches of sleet
    Snow totals is 1-3 inches in Northern & NE Oklahoma, 3-5 inches on top of Sleet in Central Oklahoma (Parts of Eastern Oklahoma can get up to 6 inches depending on how fast the Sleet changes over to snow)
    1-2 inches in NW Oklahoma
    And a dusting of snow in Southern Oklahoma & Northern Texas
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