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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5821 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:12 pm

Don’t live in a concrete hell hole with idiot inner city politicians and you’ll get more snow...

My 2 cents :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5822 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:12 pm

00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5823 Postby jasons2k » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:14 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:
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Ralph's Weather wrote:ALB issued a severe thunderstorm warning for hail and 60mph winds. This is with snow as the precip type. System seems more dynamic than expected.

Do you mean ABX?

Albuquerque, NM

NWS ABX = Albuquerque, NM
NWS ALB = Albany, NY

I checked the radar out of ABX and assumed that's what you meant :-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5824 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:15 pm

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote:
jasons2k wrote:It is colder in Bay City, Palacios, and Port Lavaca -- even Corpus and points south - than it is up here at my place. Crazy.


I’ve seen this a few times with even a routine cold spell. Gulf influence a little stronger up there and the air takes the path of leases resistance?


Ouachita shadow and the way dense cold air slides down the plains of Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5825 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:15 pm

bubba hotep wrote:00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.


I'm sorry. What?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5826 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:16 pm

jasons2k wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:
jasons2k wrote:Do you mean ABX?

Albuquerque, NM

NWS ABX = Albuquerque, NM
NWS ALB = Albany, NY

I checked the radar out of ABX and assumed that's what you meant :-)


My younger brother goes to school and Flagstaff and heard numerous thunder claps with snow today
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5827 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:17 pm

bubba hotep wrote:00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.

I don’t buy it, HRRR is matching radar trends more accurately and shows at least 0.1” qpf more. Same with the icon. With ratios near 1:15 we should get into the 4-6”. The nam is underselling the early bands
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5828 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:17 pm

bubba hotep wrote:00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.


That run would be a disaster

Edit: looks worse on TT. Kuchara on others not “disaster”
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5829 Postby Ntxw » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:19 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.

I don’t buy it, HRRR is matching radar trends more accurately and shows at least 0.1” qpf more. Same with the icon. With ratios near 1:15 we should get into the 4-6”. The nam is underselling the early bands


Looks familiar..FW? 2-4" range on it too, I wonder if this is what they pulled it from.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5830 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:22 pm

Does the NWS get model data before public or does it all come in at same time?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5831 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:22 pm

If I have to go to school Tuesday....
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5832 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:22 pm

Texas Snow wrote:Steve McCauley’s map is forthcoming but it is going for DFW with TWO to six inches.

Still calling for bigger storm tue/wed with DFW mostly snow but dangerously close to a “crippling ice storm”


If we get only 2 inches I swear I quit-WHY would that be a forecast?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5833 Postby Brent » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:22 pm

bubba hotep wrote:00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.


:spam: no comment needed
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5834 Postby Texas Snowman » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:26 pm

Brent wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:00z 3k NAM trending towards a shutout for DFW, would bust the updated NWS graphic on tbe low side.


:spam: no comment needed


Because when it comes to snow, one way or the other, NAM means Nev-A-Mind, right? :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5835 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:26 pm

And here we go.......

Folks, it's been an honor and a privilege this past week.

I've learned so much, looking forward to the Spring thread.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5836 Postby jasons2k » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:27 pm

Temp steady here for the last two hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5837 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:28 pm

Texas Snow wrote:Does the NWS get model data before public or does it all come in at same time?


This may sound weird, but in some cases it's slower, there were times I'd go on Tropical Tidbits in the office because the 12z GFS hadn't finished loading in AWIPS. They also almost never use brand new model data on their forecast updates, it's almost always from the last full cycle, which would be 18z for the models that run that. The exception would be the hourly models like the HRRR and RAP
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5838 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:28 pm

Honestly I think they are relying too heavily on the NAM. But, we will know tomorrow. It’s starting. At least we will get snow that sticks unlike that day of light snow earlier this year that did nothing but look pretty falling.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5839 Postby Ntxw » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:32 pm

Light radar returns are showing up to the southwest out towards Killeen moving N/NE. This would be the area that blossoms to the first batch of qpf in a couple of hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#5840 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:33 pm

TheProfessor wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:Does the NWS get model data before public or does it all come in at same time?


This may sound weird, but in some cases it's slower, there were times I'd go on Tropical Tidbits in the office because the 12z GFS hadn't finished loading in AWIPS. They also almost never use brand new model data on their forecast updates, it's almost always from the last full cycle, which would be 18z for the models that run that. The exception would be the hourly models like the HRRR and RAP


Wow interesting, I have always figured somehow they got it an hour early or something. Thanks for clarifying.
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