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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1861 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:49 am

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Hypercane_Kyle wrote:While I wouldn't say "all clear", I do think the chances of a significant hurricane like the HWRF had been showing is no longer plausible.

I like how you say plausible indicating a chance still instead of straight up saying it’s no longer possible that it becomes a major. I agree btw.


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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1862 Postby BYG Jacob » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:51 am

GCANE wrote:Looks like a high-helicity, high rain-rate tower fired off with tons of lightning.
Sitting in about 3000 to 4000 CAPE

Looks like Elsa will be a hurricane again today.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1863 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:53 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:While I wouldn't say "all clear", I do think the chances of a significant hurricane like the HWRF had been showing is no longer plausible.


The HWRF seems like it didn’t consider the forward speed as such an inhibiting factor. It’s been nailing the track since genesis and I think it just saw favorable conditions and the storm missing land so it continued to show intensification. Now it seems to have calmed down on that and shows a mild cat 1 or strong TS before landfall in Cuba. I think I’ll continue to lean towards it for track with this storm and see where it goes.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1864 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:53 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:While I wouldn't say "all clear", I do think the chances of a significant hurricane like the HWRF had been showing is no longer plausible.

I like how you say plausible indicating a chance still instead of straight up saying it’s no longer possible that it becomes a major. I agree btw.


After last year, I'll never say anything is impossible ever again.

Agree 100% sheesh even after Danny last week. I would say it even more so!
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1865 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:53 am

BYG Jacob wrote:
GCANE wrote:Looks like a high-helicity, high rain-rate tower fired off with tons of lightning.
Sitting in about 3000 to 4000 CAPE

Looks like Elsa will be a hurricane again today.


It hasn’t been downgraded yet has it?
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1866 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:54 am

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wx98 wrote:I’m really not seeing a major hurricane out of this at all. Moving too fast and the phantom mid-level shear could strike at any time. If I’m wrong I’ll eat my shoe


So far my shoe remains uneaten :D
Ha, predicting it wouldnt be a major is hardly a forecasting coup...your shoe is safe

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1867 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:55 am

In hindsight, I think we were too harsh on Barry for being the ugliest thing to be designated as a hurricane, because Elsa has clearly taken that title.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1868 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:56 am

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NDG wrote:Big bust by the HWRF from yesterday and I am having crow for breakfast this morning. :D

Is supposed to be so simple, I should had gone with the: when the Euro and GFS are so appart in intensity like they were a couple of days ago is better to go with a blend between the two, and that's exactly what they have come to.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1869 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:57 am

Of note.
TPC went from td at 5am after inland.
Now back to ts inland (after FL landfall),
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1870 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:59 am

aspen wrote:In hindsight, I think we were too harsh on Barry for being the ugliest thing to be designated as a hurricane, because Elsa has clearly taken that title.

barry still holds that crown...that thing was an eye sore
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1871 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:00 am

It’s going to be a close call on the Hispaniola coast lines

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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1872 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:00 am

eastcoastFL wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:While I wouldn't say "all clear", I do think the chances of a significant hurricane like the HWRF had been showing is no longer plausible.


The HWRF seems like it didn’t consider the forward speed as such an inhibiting factor. It’s been nailing the track since genesis and I think it just saw favorable conditions and the storm missing land so it continued to show intensification. Now it seems to have calmed down on that and shows a mild cat 1 or strong TS before landfall in Cuba. I think I’ll continue to lean towards it for track with this storm and see where it goes.
The hwrf has consistently intensified storms to a degree that is beyond reality...we have a weakening system with land interaction dead ahead.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1873 Postby BYG Jacob » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:00 am

eastcoastFL wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:
GCANE wrote:Looks like a high-helicity, high rain-rate tower fired off with tons of lightning.
Sitting in about 3000 to 4000 CAPE

Looks like Elsa will be a hurricane again today.


It hasn’t been downgraded yet has it?

It will be unless it rapidly re-organizes before the next advisory. Hmmm
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1874 Postby AlphaToOmega » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:02 am

The only thing this storm needs to do to intensify again is to slow down.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1875 Postby wx98 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:04 am

jlauderdal wrote:
wx98 wrote:
wx98 wrote:I’m really not seeing a major hurricane out of this at all. Moving too fast and the phantom mid-level shear could strike at any time. If I’m wrong I’ll eat my shoe


So far my shoe remains uneaten :D
Ha, predicting it wouldnt be a major is hardly a forecasting coup...your shoe is safe

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To be fair I posted that yesterday in the middle of a bunch of posts of people calling for RI to Cat 3 or 4.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1876 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:05 am

OuterBanker wrote:Of note.
TPC went from td at 5am after inland.
Now back to ts inland (after FL landfall),


We’ve seen it enough where a storm enters S.Fl and slowly strengthens over the swampland and lake O. Not much for inhibiting factors in this state. If Elsa ends up being a slow moving TS the entire state could be in for some serious rain. But less than 2 days out we really have no better idea than 2 days ago…so there’s that.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1877 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:06 am

Saved zoomed in loop.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1878 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:08 am

NDG wrote:Saved zoomed in loop.

https://i.imgur.com/KejTp68.gif


Great shot. I couldn’t find the LLC yet this morning but that’s clear as can be. A little naked swirl for a minute
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1879 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:08 am

She is going to thread the needle.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1880 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:10 am

InfernoFlameCat wrote:She is going to thread the needle.


She’s going to need to turn more to the west and fast to miss the tip of Hispaniola. The LLC looks to be racing straight for it.
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