ATL: ELSA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2241 Postby GCANE » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:19 pm

Chemmers wrote:In the last couple satellite photo was that an eye trying to form?


A little too early yet.
Need to see those towers starting rotating CCW around each other first.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2242 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:23 pm

If we didn’t have recon, visible and some kind of radar I wouldn’t have a clue what to make of an IR presentation like this. Lol what is that?

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2243 Postby GCANE » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:24 pm

Upper troposphere cooling off.
Towers getting stronger.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2244 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:24 pm

This storms IR presentation is a mess.

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2245 Postby GCANE » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:25 pm

Recon in the air
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2246 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:27 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:This storms IR presentation is a mess.

https://i.imgur.com/cMPwLJC.jpg

Elsa’s attempts to make an IR storm snowflake are less than successful.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2247 Postby psyclone » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:27 pm

It looks like a random mess of transient blobs. no banding, no good organization. But it does keep firing convection so there's still a pulse there somewhere
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2248 Postby skyline385 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:27 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:If we didn’t have recon, visible and some kind of radar I wouldn’t have a clue what to make of an IR presentation like this. Lol what is that?

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/69464042.gif?0.595577342163945


The Mid level circulation is worse than when it was a tropical wave lol
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2249 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:29 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:This storms IR presentation is a mess.

https://i.imgur.com/cMPwLJC.jpg


It's small to boot.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2250 Postby Jr0d » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:31 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:This storms IR presentation is a mess.

https://i.imgur.com/cMPwLJC.jpg


Remember how ragged Isiasis was when recon found hurricane winds?

Typical of a system that is being choked by the mountains....add the self induced wind shear and look what we have.

I do think the ingredients are there for strengthening tonight...I am seeing tale tell signs of improvement though it could just be my confirmation bias.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2251 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:33 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2252 Postby GCANE » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:37 pm

3 towers.
Enough to start heating up the core between them.

Red arrows depict latent heat flow out of each.
Heat is concentrated in the center of the three.


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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2253 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:40 pm

psyclone wrote:It looks like a random mess of transient blobs. no banding, no good organization. But it does keep firing convection so there's still a pulse there somewhere

looks like a wave
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2254 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:40 pm

GCANE wrote:3 towers.
Enough to start heating up the core between them.

Red arrows depict latent heat flow out of each.
Heat is concentrated in the center of the three.


https://i.imgur.com/XLSwjLU.png
unfortunately the center is to the west of all of them
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2255 Postby skyline385 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:42 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
GCANE wrote:3 towers.
Enough to start heating up the core between them.

Red arrows depict latent heat flow out of each.
Heat is concentrated in the center of the three.


https://i.imgur.com/XLSwjLU.png
unfortunately the center is to the west of all of them


Story of Elsa so far :lol:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2256 Postby Hammy » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:43 pm

Worth noting there's been a fairly hard westward push of the western edge of the cirrus envelope over the last several hours--which hasn't been present at all today up to this point--which indicates the upper outflow is reestablishing itself.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2257 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:43 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
GCANE wrote:3 towers.
Enough to start heating up the core between them.

Red arrows depict latent heat flow out of each.
Heat is concentrated in the center of the three.


https://i.imgur.com/XLSwjLU.png
unfortunately the center is to the west of all of them

There is a new tower firing over the LLC, though it’s not one of the ones GCANE has marked.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2258 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:45 pm

Let the deepening commence......
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2259 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:45 pm

If Elsa can hold out until the morning when it gets to DMAX as well as a slower speed than I think it could strengthen at a pretty good pace before it reaches Cuba.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2260 Postby GrayLancer18 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:46 pm

My God.

I thought there would be some improvement but this thing is getting worse by the hour.

I think the Euro was up to something and this will unravel before it reaches FL.
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