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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#501 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:58 pm

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Has this absorbing another low (which the GFS falsely spins up into a TC) and makes this decently strong a bit sooner than 18z.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#502 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:30 am

00z CMC much weaker with the first system:
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Stronger with the second system:
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#503 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:00 am

00z Euro very bullish now. Even has a CPAC system:
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#504 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:30 am

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6z GFS a bit more realistic.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#505 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:14 pm

12z GFS:
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12z CMC backs off on two systems, only has one strong one.
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12z Euro continue with the two TC solution, starts development in four days:
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GFS/CMC/UKMET start development in about 5 days much closer to Mexico. Euro has been showing the systems forming away from Mexico.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#506 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:19 pm

Here we go.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Thu Jul 8 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. A broad area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles south-southwest of the southern coast of Mexico by early next
week. Gradual development of this system is possible thereafter
as it moves generally west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

2. Another area of low pressure is expected to form a few hundred
miles south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec by early next week. Gradual
development of this system is possible thereafter while it moves
west-northwestward to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#507 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:29 pm

Looks like the NHC is siding with the Euro/EPS for now. It's the only model that develops the first system after the CMC dropped it. Looks like they're also not siding with the GFS track, instead showing the second system forming away from Mexico.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#508 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:31 pm

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ASW go brrr will likely kill serious activity in August. It’s these 2 CCKW’s in July or never at least for a while.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#509 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:37 pm

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18z GFS now potent with both systems.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#510 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:42 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:[url]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/862863952546234378/eps_chi200_anomaly_hov_equatorial_2021070800_MEAN.png[url]

ASW go brrr will likely kill serious activity in August. It’s these 2 CCKW’s in July or never.


Possible. Still should see some decent storms in August->mid-September but not at the current blistering rate since the EPAC has been making the most of any CCKW passage.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#511 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:44 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:https://i.imgur.com/FIGaM5J.png

https://i.imgur.com/NrweVeh.png

18z GFS now potent with both systems.

I think that could be a third system on the 16 day GFS. It barely develops the first system that the NHC just circled.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#512 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:47 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/862863952546234378/eps_chi200_anomaly_hov_equatorial_2021070800_MEAN.png

ASW go brrr will likely kill serious activity in August. It’s these 2 CCKW’s in July or never at least for a while.

The EPac has one sliver of opportunity to pump out some systems before the Atlantic and the ASW take over. Seems like July 21st-26th might be the most favorable. Afterwards…wow, that is an incredible setup for the Atlantic :eek:
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#513 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:01 am

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0z GFS.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#514 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:40 am

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Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 PM PDT Thu Jul 8 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

A broad area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles south-southwest of the southern coast of Mexico by early next
week. Gradual development of this system is possible thereafter
as it moves generally west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

Another area of low pressure is expected to form a few hundred
miles south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec by early next week. Gradual
development of this system is possible thereafter while it moves
west-northwestward to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#515 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:48 am

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0z GFS now longer has the westward system and peaks the eastward system at day 11.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#516 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:28 am

00z Euro still has two systems:
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#517 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:26 am

GFS, CMC, and ICON show the westernmost AOI by 120 hours, emerging from Central America. As Kingarabian posted above, the Euro does show it develop, but is much later than the other global models.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#518 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:43 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Fri Jul 9 2021

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

A broad area of low pressure is expected to form several hundred
miles south-southwest of the southern coast of Mexico by early next
week. Any subsequent development of this system is expected to be
gradual as it moves westward or west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

Another area of low pressure is expected to form south of the Gulf
of Tehuantepec by the middle of next week. Gradual development of
this system is possible thereafter while it moves west-northwestward
to northwestward at 10 to 15 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#519 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:56 am

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6z GFS is strongest run yet. Track also rapidly shifting west and now in line with the ECMWF.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#520 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:09 am

Yellow Evan wrote:https://i.imgur.com/81PFcK6.png

6z GFS is strongest run yet. Track also rapidly shifting west and now in line with the ECMWF.

It’s also coming from a rather low latitude, so it’ll be within very high (29-30C) SSTs pretty early on and could have the chance for significant intensification there. However, this is a cool neutral ENSO year, and everything else has been struggling as much as in 2020, so I’d say there’s a decent chance this storm follows suit.
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