2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#561 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:55 am



Model Hurricane into SFL is always the official start to the active part of the hurricane season! :lol:

If it didn’t impact big islands might have been a major!
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#562 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:02 pm

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Model Hurricane into SFL is always the official start to the active part of the hurricane season! :lol:

If it didn’t impact big islands might have been a major!


Florida Strait systems under the right conditions can actually really get going, given the water temperatures there especially. Irma, 1935 Labor Day, and Donna are some examples of this; however, you are right in that the narrow space with the Bahamas on one end and Cuba/Hispanola on the other make it somewhat necessary that a storm's path is juuust right enough that it stays over the water and is able to intensify as a result. Threading the needle, as they say
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#563 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:19 pm

lol at that intensity jump on approach to SFL
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#564 Postby toad strangler » Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:02 pm

12z Euro has some shenanigans going on and all BEFORE the BELL TOLLS on 8/20.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#565 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:12 pm

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What the hell is THAT...
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#566 Postby crownweather » Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:16 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:https://i.imgur.com/kSZSW3E.png

What the hell is THAT...


That looks to be the outcome from what is now a tropical wave still over central Africa. Should splash down early next week.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#567 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:40 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:https://i.imgur.com/kSZSW3E.png

What the hell is THAT...


And King Euro hinting at it? That’s alarming, we should keep an eye out for sure
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#568 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:44 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:https://i.imgur.com/kSZSW3E.png

What the hell is THAT...


That second wave isn't gonna come off that high that’s euro bias.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#569 Postby Spacecoast » Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:00 pm

Euro ensembles have been showing activity for last couple of runs.
(one member ramps up intensity and tracks N)
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Navgem Op:
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I believe UK is showing something as well
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#570 Postby Stormybajan » Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:08 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:https://i.imgur.com/kSZSW3E.png

What the hell is THAT...


Its the Irma of tropical waves :lol:
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#571 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:28 pm

Based on the latest Euro, the system in the Caribbean is actually what interests me more than the big wave off Africa imho
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#572 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:43 pm

Also the latest GFS shows incessant EPAC action and pretty much nothing up to the run’s end in the Atlantic. I personally think that’s very hard to believe
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#573 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:31 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:
Blown Away wrote:


Model Hurricane into SFL is always the official start to the active part of the hurricane season! :lol:

If it didn’t impact big islands might have been a major!


Florida Strait systems under the right conditions can actually really get going, given the water temperatures there especially. Irma, 1935 Labor Day, and Donna are some examples of this; however, you are right in that the narrow space with the Bahamas on one end and Cuba/Hispanola on the other make it somewhat necessary that a storm's path is juuust right enough that it stays over the water and is able to intensify as a result. Threading the needle, as they say


Does anybody take the ICON seriously? Not sure which is worse, the ICON or the NAVGEM :lol:
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#574 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:35 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
Model Hurricane into SFL is always the official start to the active part of the hurricane season! :lol:

If it didn’t impact big islands might have been a major!


Florida Strait systems under the right conditions can actually really get going, given the water temperatures there especially. Irma, 1935 Labor Day, and Donna are some examples of this; however, you are right in that the narrow space with the Bahamas on one end and Cuba/Hispanola on the other make it somewhat necessary that a storm's path is juuust right enough that it stays over the water and is able to intensify as a result. Threading the needle, as they say


Does anybody take the ICON seriously? Not sure which is worse, the ICON or the NAVGEM :lol:

The blind squirrel finds the nut every once in a while. At the very least, the ICON has found that nut a few times (like when it was the first model to correctly show Dorian passing to the east of PR and surviving).

The NAVGEM is still searching.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#575 Postby Jr0d » Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:19 pm

aspen wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:
Florida Strait systems under the right conditions can actually really get going, given the water temperatures there especially. Irma, 1935 Labor Day, and Donna are some examples of this; however, you are right in that the narrow space with the Bahamas on one end and Cuba/Hispanola on the other make it somewhat necessary that a storm's path is juuust right enough that it stays over the water and is able to intensify as a result. Threading the needle, as they say


Does anybody take the ICON seriously? Not sure which is worse, the ICON or the NAVGEM :lol:

The blind squirrel finds the nut every once in a while. At the very least, the ICON has found that nut a few times (like when it was the first model to correctly show Dorian passing to the east of PR and surviving).

The NAVGEM is still searching.


The ICON has also sniffed out development in the past when the GFS and EURO missed it.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#576 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:59 pm

I not sure the GFS and Euro have been much better than Navgem and ICON on sniffing out genesis lately.
But they are not close to GFS and Euro on tracks of developed systems.
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#577 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:48 pm

Oh boy, the latest GFS and GEFS really love the 3rd AOI (most recently marked AOI)
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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#578 Postby Shell Mound » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:33 am

Category5Kaiju wrote:Oh boy, the latest GFS and GEFS really love the 3rd AOI (most recently marked AOI)

...and meanwhile, the 00Z EPS shows absolutely nothing through the end of the forecast-period, despite showing a very active EPAC, including a possible MH.

 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423962107515752454



 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423962114633478148



 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423964587263729670


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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#579 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:21 am

Shell Mound wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:Oh boy, the latest GFS and GEFS really love the 3rd AOI (most recently marked AOI)

...and meanwhile, the 00Z EPS shows absolutely nothing through the end of the forecast-period, despite showing a very active EPAC, including a possible MH.

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423962107515752454
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423962114633478148
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423964587263729670


Here's last Saturdays run of the GFS. Where are all those storms? Using the GFS as an example of possible EPAC activity is never a good idea IMO.

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Re: 2021 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#580 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:26 am

tolakram wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:Oh boy, the latest GFS and GEFS really love the 3rd AOI (most recently marked AOI)

...and meanwhile, the 00Z EPS shows absolutely nothing through the end of the forecast-period, despite showing a very active EPAC, including a possible MH.

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423962107515752454
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423962114633478148
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1423964587263729670


Here's last Saturdays run of the GFS. Where are all those storms? Using the GFS as an example of possible EPAC activity is never a good idea IMO.

https://i.imgur.com/R8Mc4q6.gif


Wow, that’s just…embarrassing :ggreen: I mean, that looks to be the GFS EPAC bias in full effect
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