ATL: FRED - Post-Tropical - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
AtlanticWind
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1887
Age: 66
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:57 pm
Location: Plantation,Fla

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#101 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:45 pm

2 likes   

User avatar
Nimbus
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5300
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:54 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#102 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:49 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:last few visible images. the llc is just on the edge of these towers that are firing off. let the excitement begin.

Should be in radar range in the next several hours. so tracking the center wont be too bad overnight.

https://i.ibb.co/VV51GLz/Capture.png


Saw part of the low level cloud structure near there but there also was some serious low level inflow streaming in from the south that made the circulation look elongated. If this isn't a sharp wave on the ASCAT and convection blossoms over a closed center Barbados needs to know.


the circ was very clear the last few hours.

but yeah any large burst could pull or reform the center at this stage.

the current burst has some good inflow cloud lines.


Convective burst is far enough north that we would be worried about Martinique and St Lucia if the ASCAT shows a closed circ.
1 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10145
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#103 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:51 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:last few visible images. the llc is just on the edge of these towers that are firing off. let the excitement begin.

Should be in radar range in the next several hours. so tracking the center wont be too bad overnight.

https://i.ibb.co/VV51GLz/Capture.png


Saw part of the low level cloud structure near there but there also was some serious low level inflow streaming in from the south that made the circulation look elongated. If this isn't a sharp wave on the ASCAT and convection blossoms over a closed center Barbados needs to know.


the circ was very clear the last few hours.

but yeah any large burst could pull or reform the center at this stage.

the current burst has some good inflow cloud lines.


Image

Let's see if this burst (@13.5N/54.5W) can sustain...
Last edited by Blown Away on Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   
Hurricane Eye Experience: David 79, Irene 99, Frances 04, Jeanne 04, Wilma 05... EYE COMING MY WAY IN 2024…
Hurricane Brush Experience: Andrew 92, Erin 95, Floyd 99, Matthew 16, Irma 17, Ian 22, Nicole 22…

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#104 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:51 pm

Nimbus wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Saw part of the low level cloud structure near there but there also was some serious low level inflow streaming in from the south that made the circulation look elongated. If this isn't a sharp wave on the ASCAT and convection blossoms over a closed center Barbados needs to know.


the circ was very clear the last few hours.

but yeah any large burst could pull or reform the center at this stage.

the current burst has some good inflow cloud lines.


Convective burst is far enough north that we would be worried about Martinique and St Lucia if the ASCAT shows a closed circ.


you are assuming it follows the models wnw motion.. so far it has refused to move wnw.. steady west the last 24 hours.
2 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10145
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#105 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:55 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
the circ was very clear the last few hours.

but yeah any large burst could pull or reform the center at this stage.

the current burst has some good inflow cloud lines.


Convective burst is far enough north that we would be worried about Martinique and St Lucia if the ASCAT shows a closed circ.


you are assuming it follows the models wnw motion.. so far it has refused to move wnw.. steady west the last 24 hours.


It appears to be on or slightly N of 12z Euro. If Euro is correct 94L should slow down tonight and move more WNW.
5 likes   
Hurricane Eye Experience: David 79, Irene 99, Frances 04, Jeanne 04, Wilma 05... EYE COMING MY WAY IN 2024…
Hurricane Brush Experience: Andrew 92, Erin 95, Floyd 99, Matthew 16, Irma 17, Ian 22, Nicole 22…

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#106 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:59 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Convective burst is far enough north that we would be worried about Martinique and St Lucia if the ASCAT shows a closed circ.


you are assuming it follows the models wnw motion.. so far it has refused to move wnw.. steady west the last 24 hours.


It appears to be on or slightly N of 12z Euro. If Euro is correct 94L should slow down tonight and move more WNW.


north ? you mean south and west. all models take it north of barbados. it is going to very hard to get that far north unless it reforms. the 18z best track is so far east its silly.
0 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
AtlanticWind
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1887
Age: 66
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:57 pm
Location: Plantation,Fla

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#107 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:02 pm

I think the center is close to the blowup of convection, when I look at loop it looks to me to be moving close to wnw.
0 likes   

User avatar
InfernoFlameCat
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2102
Age: 22
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:52 am
Location: Buford, GA

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#108 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:10 pm

This invest is pretty good looking. It has lots of moisture enveloping it. lots of convective activity surrounding a center is indicative of a developing system. I think the TWO will raise this to a 60/60 at 8:00 Pm EDT.
1 likes   
I am by no means a professional. DO NOT look at my forecasts for official information or make decisions based on what I post.

Goal: to become a registered expert over tropical and subtropical cyclones.

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145277
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#109 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:14 pm

0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145277
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#110 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:39 pm

Levi Cowan video.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/hVC2StjzWBU[/youtube]
8 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
AtlanticWind
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1887
Age: 66
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:57 pm
Location: Plantation,Fla

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#111 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:00 pm

cycloneye wrote:Levi Cowan video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVC2StjzWBU

Good as always , but not too much with didnt know.
0 likes   

User avatar
Spacecoast
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 758
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:03 pm

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#112 Postby Spacecoast » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:02 pm

Multiplatform Satellite Surface Wind Analysis

Image

This graphic combines information from five data sources to create a mid-level (near 700 hPa) wind analysis. The resulting mid-level winds are then adjusted to the surface applying a very simple single column approach. Over the ocean an adjustment factor is applied, which is a function of radius from the center ranging from 0.9 to 0.7, and the winds are turned 20 degrees toward low pressure. Over land, the oceanic winds are reduced by an additional 20% and turned an additional 20 degrees toward low pressure.

The five datasets currently used are the ASCAT scatterometer, which is adjusted upward to 700 hPa in the same manner as the surface winds are adjusted downward, feature track winds in the mid-levels from the operational satellite centers, 2-d flight-level winds estimated from infrared imagery and 2-d winds created from Advanced Microwave Sounding Unit (AMSU)- derived height fields and solving the non-linear balance equations.

In interpreting the wind radii verification it is important to note that the zero wind radii are included in the verification, which both skews and inflates the MAE verification statistics.
Last edited by Spacecoast on Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1 likes   

User avatar
toad strangler
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4543
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:09 pm
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#113 Postby toad strangler » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:03 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Levi Cowan video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVC2StjzWBU

Good as always , but not too much with didnt know.


He did mention the possibility of better conditions post islands..
0 likes   

User avatar
InfernoFlameCat
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2102
Age: 22
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:52 am
Location: Buford, GA

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#114 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:07 pm

Spacecoast wrote:Multiplatform Satellite Surface Wind Analysis

[url]https://i.ibb.co/NmjVDLG/ecmf2f.jpg [/url]

That looks like a 20knot depression to me. To be clear it’s not though.
0 likes   
I am by no means a professional. DO NOT look at my forecasts for official information or make decisions based on what I post.

Goal: to become a registered expert over tropical and subtropical cyclones.

User avatar
AubreyStorm
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 337
Age: 44
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:21 pm
Location: Texas, USA

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#115 Postby AubreyStorm » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:08 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Spacecoast wrote:Multiplatform Satellite Surface Wind Analysis

[url]https://i.ibb.co/NmjVDLG/ecmf2f.jpg [/url]

That looks like a 20knot depression to me. To be clear it’s not though.


Hmmmmmm TD? :eek:
0 likes   
The posts are NOT an official forecast. Please REFER to the NHC and NWS for official forecasts and products.

User avatar
toad strangler
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4543
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:09 pm
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#116 Postby toad strangler » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:11 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Spacecoast wrote:Multiplatform Satellite Surface Wind Analysis

[url]https://i.ibb.co/NmjVDLG/ecmf2f.jpg [/url]

That looks like a 20knot depression to me. To be clear it’s not though.


Huh? :lol:
1 likes   

User avatar
Category5Kaiju
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4095
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:45 pm
Location: Seattle

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#117 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:13 pm

It does have some spin, although I am not sure if it's a TD yet
0 likes   
Unless explicitly stated, all info in my posts is based on my own opinions and observations. Tropical storms and hurricanes can be extremely dangerous. Do not think you can beat Mother Nature. Refer to an accredited weather research agency or meteorologist if you need to make serious decisions regarding an approaching storm.

User avatar
Nimbus
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5300
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:54 am

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#118 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:15 pm

See if they weigh this SCAT for the 8PM.
Surface evidence is better than radar since above 10,000 feet is mid level.
Levi did mention the humidity is much lower outside the moisture envelope.
0 likes   

User avatar
Stormybajan
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 448
Joined: Thu May 20, 2021 3:21 pm
Location: Windward Islands

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#119 Postby Stormybajan » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:25 pm

94L totally tricked me, here I thought, YES some heat relief with some rain tomorrow but literally all of the convection heading for the island has just vanished in the last 2 hours. In any case, lets see if this tiny blowup near 13.5N can be the wave's starting point in organization
3 likes   
Sad West Indies and Manchester United fan ⚽️

tolakram
Admin
Admin
Posts: 20009
Age: 62
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: Florence, KY (name is Mark)

Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#120 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:36 pm

TPW loop.

Image
4 likes   
M a r k
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.


Return to “2021”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests