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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#601 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:49 am

So the Euro drops Grace and poofs her. I don't even see any remnants.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#602 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:50 am

AtlanticWind wrote:
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AtlanticWind wrote:I am tending to lean to the Hwrf for path( intensity who knows) because I think Grace is moving more wnw
and is going to clear Hispanola.

We are going to find out real soon who is right.


Just to clarify I dont think its going to clear by as much as the HWRF is showing
Think its going to ride just offshore of the big Island.
But this a close call and definitely would not be suprised if it burys itself in Hispanola.

If you see a reformation N or Puerto Rico, or see it barely clip from the E, watch out. If not, then a GFS scenario comes more into play.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#603 Postby AtlanticWind » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:50 am

jlauderdal wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:https://i.postimg.cc/qMFrh9h8/hwrf-sat-IR-07-L-20.png
Welp, the HWRF is definitely entertaining.
Its been wrong so many times, it will be right at some point.

Hope this is not the time :roll:
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#604 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:38 am

SoupBone wrote:So the Euro drops Grace and poofs her. I don't even see any remnants.


Should you be surprised? It’s the Euro.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#605 Postby kevin » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:29 am

The global models seem to dissipate or severely weaken Grace due to a meeting with Hispaniola. Now let's see what the hurricane models will do, HMON 06z just started.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#606 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:44 am

That ASCAT rules out rapid intensification.
I suppose the big islands might eventually split the system and close off some of the energy to the north.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#607 Postby kevin » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:11 am

06z HMON dissipates Grace after a landfall with Hispaniola. Seems like a Hispaniola landfall is becoming increasingly likely. Would be favorable for the US of course, but a horrible scenario for Haiti especially. Just days after the earthquake they would have TS (remnants) to deal with and the latest euro run even brings more than 200 mm of rain to certain parts of the country.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#608 Postby kevin » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:14 am

06z HWRF however still jumps north of Hispaniola, hurricane at +48 hrs. Tbh I find this a bit too crazy to believe considering the other models, but who knows. This could be quite a run.

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#609 Postby aspen » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:22 am

kevin wrote:06z HWRF however still jumps north of Hispaniola, hurricane at +48 hrs. Tbh I find this a bit too crazy to believe considering the other models, but who knows. This could be quite a run.

https://i.imgur.com/nxjQ4FP.png

In order for that run to verify, we would need to see a significant shift to the NW today and a massive blowup of convection by tonight. This is probably just another popcorn run. The HWRF does have quite the north bias with its tracks.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#610 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:41 am

How in the world does the HWRF get this thing moving rapidly NW?
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#611 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:44 am

6z Euro
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#612 Postby aspen » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:09 am

The 06z HWRF-P run for 96L shows a much more believable outcome for Grace: it remains weak while traveling over the GAs, has a center relocation into the northern coast of Cuba/FL straits, and emerges in the Gulf as a weak TS/TD before intensifying again.

In other words, Laura 2.0
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#613 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:38 am

:eek:

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#614 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:39 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote::eek:

https://i.imgur.com/d7hb8jt.png



Why the crazy eyes, that's a pretty reasonable solution. A minimal system hitting with Texas.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#615 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:41 am

SoupBone wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote::eek:

https://i.imgur.com/d7hb8jt.png



Why the crazy eyes, that's a pretty reasonable solution. A minimal system hitting with Texas.


I wouldn't call that solution "minimal". What the GEFS is showing is that Grace could struggle over Hispaniola & Cuba and still become a potent system in the GOMEX.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#616 Postby toad strangler » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:44 am

I view any post GA's interaction model output with a whole one pound package of Celtic Sea Salt
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#617 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:55 am

06z Euro ensembles.
If it tracks north of Cuba chances of getting strong is greater, will have better UL conditions than what Fred had.

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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#618 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:57 am

NDG wrote:06z Euro ensembles.

https://i.imgur.com/1z5L5T4.png

Wow! 96L has interesting tracks there
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#619 Postby Senobia » Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:21 am

NDG wrote:06z Euro ensembles.
If it tracks north of Cuba chances of getting strong is greater, will have better UL conditions than what Fred had.

https://i.imgur.com/1z5L5T4.png


How many models are showing this GOM solution? I think I saw this one and GFS.
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Re: ATL: GRACE - Models

#620 Postby SoupBone » Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:23 am

NDG wrote:06z Euro ensembles.
If it tracks north of Cuba chances of getting strong is greater, will have better UL conditions than what Fred had.

https://i.imgur.com/1z5L5T4.png



Funny that the Euro last night completely lost Grace. And it doesn't have the potent high that the GFS thinks will be in the Gulf.
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