ATL: FIONA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#981 Postby hipshot » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:45 pm

tolakram wrote:Josh Morgerman (iCyclone) is in Boca de Yuma, tip of cyan arrow.

https://i.imgur.com/nCPeUSN.png

Sure hope Josh is in a good save spot because he may get the eye!! :(
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#982 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:48 pm

hipshot wrote:
tolakram wrote:Josh Morgerman (iCyclone) is in Boca de Yuma, tip of cyan arrow.

https://i.imgur.com/nCPeUSN.png

Sure hope Josh is in a good save spot because he may get the eye!! :(


I don't think so, my bet is Fiona takes a sharp north turn and starts stair stepping up as the ridge north of it starts to weaken. It has stopped almost all westward progression now that a few more frames of the radar have come in. The wobble watch continues.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#983 Postby Hammy » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:50 pm

No detectable forward motion on radar over the last hour now
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#984 Postby skyline385 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:50 pm

hipshot wrote:
tolakram wrote:Josh Morgerman (iCyclone) is in Boca de Yuma, tip of cyan arrow.

https://i.imgur.com/nCPeUSN.png

Sure hope Josh is in a good save spot because he may get the eye!! :(


He is actively hoping he gets the eye seeing twitter activity, and yes he did find lodging to ride the storm out.

 https://twitter.com/iCyclone/status/1571672534289973248


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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#985 Postby skyline385 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:56 pm

Still around 18 hours of rain to go, Fiona is going to break rainfall records for PR at this rate

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#986 Postby blp » Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:57 pm

It's making the turn..

11:00 PM AST Sun Sep 18

Location: 18.0°N 68.1°W

Moving: WNW at 10 mph

Min pressure: 982 mb

WNW now

EDIT: maybe NOT looks like they are averaging it out. Still moving WEST.

As mentioned above, Fiona has been moving more westward this
evening, but the longer-term motion estimate is 300/9 kt. With this
westward jog, the center is likely to make landfall in the eastern
portion of the Dominican Republic overnight, and the early portion
of the track forecast has been adjusted accordingly. The dynamical
model guidance insists that a northwestward motion should begin
soon, and the models are in good agreement that Fiona will move
around the western periphery of a subtropical ridge over the next
several days.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#987 Postby skyline385 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:00 pm

blp wrote:It's making the turn..

11:00 PM AST Sun Sep 18

Location: 18.0°N 68.1°W

Moving: WNW at 10 mph

Min pressure: 982 mb

WNW now


Nah, they are assuming it will make the turn soon. Its in the discussion

As mentioned above, Fiona has been moving more westward this evening, but the longer-term motion estimate is 300/9 kt. With this westward jog, the center is likely to make landfall in the eastern portion of the Dominican Republic overnight, and the early portion of the track forecast has been adjusted accordingly. The dynamical model guidance insists that a northwestward motion should begin soon, and the models are in good agreement that Fiona will move around the western periphery of a subtropical ridge over the next several days.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#988 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:01 pm

Recon showing center fixes still a bit sw, slowing down though perhaps.

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#989 Postby blp » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:02 pm

skyline385 wrote:
blp wrote:It's making the turn..

11:00 PM AST Sun Sep 18

Location: 18.0°N 68.1°W

Moving: WNW at 10 mph

Min pressure: 982 mb

WNW now


Nah, they are assuming it will make the turn soon. Its in the discussion

As mentioned above, Fiona has been moving more westward this evening, but the longer-term motion estimate is 300/9 kt. With this westward jog, the center is likely to make landfall in the eastern portion of the Dominican Republic overnight, and the early portion of the track forecast has been adjusted accordingly. The dynamical model guidance insists that a northwestward motion should begin soon, and the models are in good agreement that Fiona will move around the western periphery of a subtropical ridge over the next several days.


I just saw that. I edited my post. They don't know what it's doing right now..
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#990 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:02 pm

Look at the outflow starting to expand on the SW side.

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#991 Postby Hammy » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:03 pm

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Forward speed down 50-60% between fixes
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#992 Postby blp » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:05 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#993 Postby blp » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:06 pm

Hammy wrote:https://i.imgur.com/NJJ76Xj.png

Forward speed down 50-60% between fixes


It's definitely reaching the periphery. This will turn soon.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#994 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:11 pm

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WTNT42 KNHC 190255
TCDAT2

Hurricane Fiona Discussion Number 19
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072022
1100 PM AST Sun Sep 18 2022

Radar imagery and recent fixes from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane
Hunter aircraft show that Fiona has jogged westward over the Mona
Passage, in between Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic this
evening. Radar, microwave imagery, and observations from the
aircraft indicate that the eye has become smaller, with the radius
of maximum winds decreasing to 10-15 n mi. There has been some
warming of the clouds tops in the band just outside the CDO, but the
conventional satellite presentation has not changed much since late
this afternoon. The aircraft has measured a peak 700-mb flight-
level wind of 75 kt, and SFMR winds of around 70 kt. A dropwindsonde
in the northwestern eyewall measured a mean wind of 89 kt in the
lowest 150 m of the profile, which supports the 75 kt initial
intensity. The aircraft just reported a minimum pressure of 982 mb
on it latest pass through the center just a short time ago.

As mentioned above, Fiona has been moving more westward this
evening, but the longer-term motion estimate is 300/9 kt. With this
westward jog, the center is likely to make landfall in the eastern
portion of the Dominican Republic overnight, and the early portion
of the track forecast has been adjusted accordingly. The dynamical
model guidance insists that a northwestward motion should begin
soon, and the models are in good agreement that Fiona will move
around the western periphery of a subtropical ridge over the next
several days. Later in the forecast period, Fiona is forecast to
accelerate northeastward, and north-northeastward ahead of a trough
that is expected to move across the northeastern United States by
the end of the week. The official forecast is near the center of
the guidance envelope, but is slightly slower than the previous
forecast at days 4 and 5 to be closer to the latest consensus aids.

Fiona could strengthen slightly within the next few hours before it
reaches the coast of the Dominican Republic overnight. After that
time, some weakening could occur while the center remains near
eastern Hispaniola. Once Fiona moves over the Atlantic waters
north of the Dominican Republic, the hurricane will be over warm
water and in fairly moist environment. Although there is likely to
be some moderate shear over the hurricane, nearly all of the
intensity models suggest the cyclone will strengthen, and the
official forecast again calls for Fiona to become a major hurricane
in a couple of days. The NHC intensity forecast is close to the
IVCN intensity aid, and is similar to the previous wind speed
forecast.

Based on Fiona's latest forecast track, the government of the
Bahamas has issued a Hurricane Warning for the Turks and Caicos
Islands.

Key Messages:

1. Hurricane conditions are expected to begin in portions of the
warning area in the Dominican Republic within the next few hours.
Tropical storm conditions will continue to spread over portions of
the Dominican Republic within the warning area through Monday.

2. Heavy rains from Fiona will continue across Puerto Rico overnight
tonight and spread over the Dominican Republic through Monday.
These rains will continue to produce life-threatening and
catastrophic flash and urban flooding across Puerto Rico and
portions of the eastern Dominican Republic, along with mudslides and
landslides in areas of higher terrain.

3. Fiona is forecast to continue to strengthen after moving away
from Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Hurricane conditions
are expected in portions of the Turks and Caicos Islands on Tuesday,
and tropical storm conditions are expected in the southeastern
Bahamas by late Monday or early Tuesday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 19/0300Z 18.0N 68.1W 75 KT 85 MPH
12H 19/1200Z 19.0N 69.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
24H 20/0000Z 20.4N 70.0W 90 KT 105 MPH
36H 20/1200Z 21.9N 70.8W 95 KT 110 MPH
48H 21/0000Z 23.3N 71.1W 100 KT 115 MPH
60H 21/1200Z 24.7N 71.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
72H 22/0000Z 26.4N 70.5W 110 KT 125 MPH
96H 23/0000Z 31.2N 67.4W 110 KT 125 MPH
120H 24/0000Z 40.3N 59.8W 95 KT 110 MPH

$$
Forecaster Brown
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#995 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:11 pm

weeniepatrol wrote:https://i.imgur.com/iUpZJa3.gif

outflow

Upper low to the NE is well-positioned for ventilation


Yes and the upper low appears to be moving westward.
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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#996 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:17 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#997 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:25 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#998 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:29 pm

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#999 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:31 pm

Recon almost to center, still moving slowly west IMO.

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Re: ATL: FIONA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1000 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:36 pm

The center has jumped NW this pass, and the extrapolated pressure has fallen to exactly 980mb. Fiona’s turn has begun.
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