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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#461 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:33 pm

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Bizarre to see the Ukmet & Euro the east outliers and GFS/Suite west outlier... Doesn't happen very often...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#462 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:35 pm

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12z GEFS...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#463 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:36 pm

Big shift West on the 18Z.

TVCN big shift West to the Yucatan Channel
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#464 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:36 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#465 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:38 pm

toad strangler wrote:
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wxman57 keeps mentioning west to east jet core in the western GOM that has him not buying the GFS further west OP solutions. I've never heard the term before.


jet stream=jet core

Wxman57 looking at basic meteorology and that's a good thing at this point


ahh the ol jet stream. Well that is usually way up there in the atmosphere cake, Higher than 500mb if I'm not mistaken. so I'd assume that would effect the most stacked of storms.



https://glossary.ametsoc.org/wiki/Jet_stream_core
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#466 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:39 pm

It is beyond odd to me to see the EC and UK on the east side of guidance while the GFS is on the west…

Edit: oof, Blown Away already made that comment
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#467 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:40 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Big shift West on the 18Z.

TVCN big shift West to the Yucatan Channel


Yea surely thanks to the gfs nonsence lol.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#468 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:40 pm

Pretty decent spread in EPS 12Z

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#469 Postby toad strangler » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:40 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
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jet stream=jet core

Wxman57 looking at basic meteorology and that's a good thing at this point


ahh the ol jet stream. Well that is usually way up there in the atmosphere cake, Higher than 500mb if I'm not mistaken. so I'd assume that would effect the most stacked of storms.



https://glossary.ametsoc.org/wiki/Jet_stream_core


I know what the jet stream is lol, just don't hear about it in relation to tropical synoptics much. Usually it's 500mb that rules the talk on steering TC's. I am under the assumption the the jet stream is normally much higher than 500mb.
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ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#470 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:41 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Big shift West on the 18Z.

TVCN big shift West to the Yucatan Channel


Yea surely thanks to the gfs nonsence lol.

I wouldn’t call it nonsense, remember the GFS was the most accurate dynamical model for track guidance per NHC just last year.

GFS also nailed Earl and Fiona this season.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#471 Postby toad strangler » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:42 pm

skyline385 wrote:Pretty decent spread in EPS 12Z

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Can you post 180 hours or so instead?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#472 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Big shift West on the 18Z.

TVCN big shift West to the Yucatan Channel


Yea surely thanks to the gfs nonsence lol.


It's not nonsense. Many models, including the Gfs and Euro ensembles show this missing the trough. Even the operational Euro is very close to missing, hence riding N into Georgia instead of being picked up.

Still days away from having any confidence
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#473 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 pm

toad strangler wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Pretty decent spread in EPS 12Z

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Can you post 180 hours or so instead?

Sure

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#474 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:50 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#475 Postby Keldeo1997 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:51 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#476 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:53 pm


Ok this response is hilarious :D

 https://twitter.com/wxspy/status/1572653392656310276




For those out of the loop, a JetBlue passenger jet flew over the eye of Fiona while it was a high end Cat 2


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#477 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:54 pm

12z EPS.. Were is it going lol?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#478 Postby skyline385 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:02 pm

12Z EPS upto 360 hrs

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#479 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:03 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:It is beyond odd to me to see the EC and UK on the east side of guidance while the GFS is on the west…

Edit: oof, Blown Away already made that comment


differences in steering and timing, timing should be better once we have a storm to track.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#480 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:07 pm

skyline385 wrote:12Z EPS upto 360 hrs

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Quite the shift West. Many more members showing it missing the trough.

To be clear, I have no idea where it's going. I think it has just as much of a chance curving into SoFlo as the North central Gulf. It is very close
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