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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2601 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:14 pm

0z CMC is pretty much 100% identical to the 12z CMC through landfall.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2602 Postby Bocadude85 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:14 pm

Either the GFS is crazy or it will come out triumphant, It’s the only model that hasn’t shown a west central Florida landfall in many cycles.0z CMC has a similar landfall location as the GFS.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2603 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:15 pm

That would be a serious hit for Tallahassee if the GFS verified. Still a solid hurricane, maybe a cat 2, at landfall.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2604 Postby ronjon » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:16 pm

Yeah no consensus on track between GFS and Euro still at 72-96 hrs...
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2605 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:18 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2606 Postby N2FSU » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:19 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:That would be a serious hit for Tallahassee if the GFS verified. Still a solid hurricane, maybe a cat 2, at landfall.

Yeh with our dense tree coverage here it would be devastating. I hope this and the 18z Euro slight west shift doesn’t portend of things to come.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2607 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:25 pm

0z UKMET shifts right from Laurel (North of Venice) to Englewood.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2608 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:27 pm

BobHarlem wrote:0z UKMET shifts right from Laurel (North of Venice) to Englewood.


UKMET seems to be the eastern envelope. Most likely it will be somewhere in those. But the impacts go well beyond...
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2609 Postby Beef Stew » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:31 pm

0z UK shifts east, and the GFS is back to its western Panhandle vacation… good to see our consensus is still clear as mud. I must admit I’m a little surprised… at this point we’re (likely) in the 72-96hr range until landfall and we’re still seeing some awfully large discrepancies between model runs. I feel this is the largest spread for this timeframe that we’ve seen in a long while, but perhaps it’s just selective memory. Least to say, I do not envy the position the NHC forecasters are being put into with Ian…
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2610 Postby crimi481 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:33 pm

I am in N. Englewood- on Lemon bay. Looks like many Models bring Ian near Sarasota County - and Charlotte county region. Travels with Charlie?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2611 Postby IcyTundra » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:37 pm

Beef Stew wrote:0z UK shifts east, and the GFS is back to its western Panhandle vacation… good to see our consensus is still clear as mud. I must admit I’m a little surprised… at this point we’re (likely) in the 72-96hr range until landfall and we’re still seeing some awfully large discrepancies between model runs. I feel this is the largest spread for this timeframe that we’ve seen in a long while, but perhaps it’s just selective memory. Least to say, I do not envy the position the NHC forecasters are being put into with Ian…


Last time I can remember something like this was with Laura in 2020. Most other models were showing a SW LA landfall but the Euro wouldn't budge on its Galveston landfall.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2612 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:41 pm

Anyone have a map plot of the UKMET run?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2613 Postby Hayabusa » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:48 pm

AdamFirst wrote:Anyone have a map plot of the UKMET run?

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2614 Postby Beef Stew » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:48 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
Beef Stew wrote:0z UK shifts east, and the GFS is back to its western Panhandle vacation… good to see our consensus is still clear as mud. I must admit I’m a little surprised… at this point we’re (likely) in the 72-96hr range until landfall and we’re still seeing some awfully large discrepancies between model runs. I feel this is the largest spread for this timeframe that we’ve seen in a long while, but perhaps it’s just selective memory. Least to say, I do not envy the position the NHC forecasters are being put into with Ian…


Last time I can remember something like this was with Laura in 2020. Most other models were showing a SW LA landfall but the Euro wouldn't budge on its Galveston landfall.



Yeah, the euro was an unmitigated mess for Laura, I remember it was still insistent on that Texas solution within 48 hours before finally caving. I’m starting to get the sense that the GFS might be dying on a similar hill with this insistence on a NW track, but who knows at this point. We’ll see how these runs have aged at the end of the week.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2615 Postby Bocadude85 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:52 pm

Interesting initialization on the 0z HWRF… is it just a TT glitch or?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2616 Postby Ed_2001 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:54 pm

To thicken the plot further 0z GEFS has really constrited from previous runs, less far west tracks and less Tampa-area impact, essentially insisting on a high chance of Panhandle landfall.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2617 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:06 am

HWRF crossing Cuba a little further east
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2618 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:08 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2619 Postby Fancy1001 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:09 am

Why does it feel like every model is digging its heels in saying I don’t care what the others say, we’re gonna do this my way.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#2620 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:17 am

This is an emergency manager's worst nightmare that may be unfolding.
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