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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3001 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:25 am

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weeniepatrol wrote:Only good news is we can see the dry air encroaching into the Gulf.

https://imgur.com/1LPxVXr


My eyes might be playing tricks, but I see this as evidence of the trough digging further down than forecast, which would most likely turn Ian more east...and sooner


Looks like it is already down to the Florida Panhandle. Don't think it was supposed to be here yet.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3002 Postby psyclone » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:27 am

Ian is northbound at less than 1 degree west of my longitude. I continue to believe this storm lands south of Tampa bay.. one thing I am watching locally is whether the NHC extends hurricane warnings northward. So far they haven't...leaving the ts warning/hurricane watch combo in place north of Anclote. They have been extending warnings south though.. and for good reason. Good luck to everyone in the path of this beast.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3003 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:28 am

Quite a bit of shear coming up

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3004 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:30 am

Beachside wrote:At which advisories does the NHC update the forecast track? I know for each advisory they update the time stamp on the track graphic, but I know certain ones are not true updates.

Which times is the forecast track actually updated?


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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3005 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:30 am

tropicwatch wrote:
Jr0d wrote:
weeniepatrol wrote:Only good news is we can see the dry air encroaching into the Gulf.

https://imgur.com/1LPxVXr


My eyes might be playing tricks, but I see this as evidence of the trough digging further down than forecast, which would most likely turn Ian more east...and sooner


Looks like it is already down to the Florida Panhandle. Don't think it was supposed to be here yet.

https://tropicwatch.info/trough092720220700.gif


Looks to me like it matches fine with the Euro

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3006 Postby TallyTracker » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:33 am

The air does feel a bit cooler and drier than last night in Tallahassee. I think the trough is right over us. The chances of a Panhandle landfall appear to be diminishing though I’m still watching closely.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3007 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:33 am

eastcoastFL wrote:Quite a bit of shear coming up

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF

Ian’s path and the shear vector almost perfectly line up, so the net shear over the system will be low for the time being. Levi has mentioned in his videos that shear will increase when Ian begins feeling the effects of a high over Texas, because it’ll be imparting flow that’s in the complete opposite direction of the UL flow and its current path, which is also what causes Ian to slow down.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3008 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:36 am

New TVCN is farther south - Sarasota to Venice area tomorrow evening. Better for Tampa Bay.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3009 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:36 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3010 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:36 am

psyclone wrote:Ian is northbound at less than 1 degree west of my longitude. I continue to believe this storm lands south of Tampa bay.. one thing I am watching locally is whether the NHC extends hurricane warnings northward. So far they haven't...leaving the ts warning/hurricane watch combo in place north of Anclote. They have been extending warnings south though.. and for good reason. Good luck to everyone in the path of this beast.


That’s a very sharp observation. Our TS watch in Martin County recently changed to a warning.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3011 Postby jhpigott » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:37 am

Looks like a high risk for tornados along the SEFL coast the next 24 hours

https://twitter.com/webberweather/statu ... 1509709824
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3012 Postby MGC » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:38 am

It was 60 beautiful degrees here on the MS coast this morning at my house. Forecast low was spot on. Was hoping Ian would loose some organization while crossing Cube, that don't appear to be the case. What concerns me is the interaction of Ian and the trough. Many times a hurricane that is moving NE in front of a trough deepens way more than forecast.....Opal and Michael to name a few. Tampa may dodge another bullet.....we shall see....MGC
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3013 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:38 am

aspen wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Quite a bit of shear coming up

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF

Ian’s path and the shear vector almost perfectly line up, so the net shear over the system will be low for the time being. Levi has mentioned in his videos that shear will increase when Ian begins feeling the effects of a high over Texas, because it’ll be imparting flow that’s in the complete opposite direction of the UL flow and its current path, which is also what causes Ian to slow down.



Does it still feel the effects of the Texas ridge if it ends up being pulled east by the trough?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3014 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:43 am

For folks who are already giving Tampa the clear, I have a question to ask: wouldn't the high likelihood that Ian ends up as a much larger system than, say, Charley, make Tampa still in the danger zone even if the hurricane doesn't like make landfall over the city directly?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3015 Postby skillz305 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:43 am

What are the chances that the NHC puts hurricane watches for east coast central Florida at 11am? My job isn’t taking this storm seriously in St. Lucie County (boat manufacture)
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3016 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:43 am

jhpigott wrote:Looks like a high risk for tornados along the SEFL coast the next 24 hours

https://twitter.com/webberweather/statu ... 1509709824

The setup from the upper keys towards palm beach county is looking very good for optimizing rainfall rates into tonight, John Morales reports 3.5 storm total in Coral Gables, I am close to 2 inches of precip, and its pouring now. Noname Storm and Irene were major rain producers without the big wind headlines in our area.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3017 Postby LandoWill » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:47 am

jdjaguar wrote:https://cera.coastalrisk.live/s/85ae

For all of those who live in the Tampa/Bradenton/Sarasota area, I have found this site to quite informative
regarding storm surge impacts. It is interactive and you can zoom to neighborhood level.

Warning, it appears to project devastating impact to a broad area.

Is this the current track? Just waking up, looks similar to 11pm last night. But, I thought it was shifting south?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3018 Postby Smurfwicked » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:47 am

The eye is looking perfectly circular and even smaller in the last few frames of IR.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3019 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:47 am

Ian’s extrapolated pressure has gone up another ~5mb this pass. The eye is about to move over water, so I think the pressure should stabilize around 960mb.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#3020 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:47 am

skillz305 wrote:What are the chances that the NHC puts hurricane watches for east coast central Florida at 11am? My job isn’t taking this storm seriously in St. Lucie County (boat manufacture)

Your chances are increasing by the hour and with that latest recon fix, we have east of north motion albeit probably short term, every mile matters, especially at this angle of approach. Also, the environment is much more conducive for hurricanes south of tampa. Key West could get scraped by the eyewall and as usual, they are ready. They aren't keen to evacuate in the keys for any storm but they know how to be prepared.
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