2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1281 Postby TomballEd » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:10 pm

Visioen wrote:Euro developing a TC over land, that's new.

https://i.imgur.com/L4pmmZv.gif


Andy Hazelton has posted on Twitter (X) about current Euro and ensembles not weakening low level vortices moving over land and noted the occasional cyclone over Africa. He seems to feel the Pacific MT breaking off a piece that crosses C. America to emerge in the SW aribbean thing is unlucky. PhD met at Hurricane Research Division.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1282 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:20 pm

Visioen wrote:Euro developing a TC over land, that's new.

https://i.imgur.com/L4pmmZv.gif

Now THAT'S comedy.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1283 Postby Ianswfl » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:28 pm



Looks like the big bend will be ground zero. IMO it will shift east some. Already that area of spin and disturbed weather seems a bit more east. Whatever becomes of it will be fluid. we could have hurricane watches for Key west by Sunday night.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1284 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:34 pm

Their is no guarantee this is headed to florida and thats evident in the euro ensembles , this could just as easily fizzle out over central america, or get trapped in the BOC, the steering pattern is complicated, lots of variables in play
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1285 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:40 pm

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1286 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:40 pm

Ianswfl wrote:


Looks like the big bend will be ground zero. IMO it will shift east some. Already that area of spin and disturbed weather seems a bit more east. Whatever becomes of it will be fluid. we could have hurricane watches for Key west by Sunday night.


Yep, seems to be east of Nicaragua, need to watch that area for development the next few days
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1287 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:49 pm

A thread has been made for the area in NW Caribbean. The model runs for that can be posted there.

https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 4#p3035234
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1288 Postby REDHurricane » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:58 pm

00z ICON is clearly having some fun

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1289 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:36 pm

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12z ICON... Brings a TS near Sarasota and has a hurricane moving into NE Caribbean.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1290 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:31 pm

Might have to keep an eye out on the front that will be steering this system to florida, models showing the front getting out over the gulf of mexico, with the 00z CMC starting to hint at a weak area of low pressure trying to form in the BOC, just something to causally watch, definitely cannot trust even a weak front over the gulf
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1291 Postby IcyTundra » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:42 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Might have to keep an eye out on the front that will be steering this system to florida, models showing the front getting out over the gulf of mexico, with the 00z CMC starting to hint at a weak area of low pressure trying to form in the BOC, just something to causally watch, definitely cannot trust even a weak front over the gulf


Looks like the GFS has a front draping down into the gulf as well.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1292 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:19 am

This is the GFS we all know and love. 00Z develops 3 systems not including the area in the WCAR right now.

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1293 Postby Teban54 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:36 am

384 hr 0z GFS wants September 10, 2023 to be like September 10, 2017 :lol:

It even wants them to get the I, J and K names in the exact same order as their 2017 versions too, since GFS still refuses to develop the Caribbean system.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1294 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:56 am

Teban54 wrote:384 hr 0z GFS wants September 10, 2023 to be like September 10, 2017 :lol:

It even wants them to get the I, J and K names in the exact same order as their 2017 versions too, since GFS still refuses to develop the Caribbean system.
https://i.postimg.cc/QdJzN79T/image.png

The same gfs that cant sniff out the yucatan system a few days in advance :D :D :D
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1295 Postby Teban54 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:28 am

GFS, ECMWF and CMC are in general agreement of a wave leaving Africa on August 29 trying to develop, with some (if not most) runs taking a W to WSW turn past the CV islands.

Eerily similar to another storm at the same time 6 years ago. Let's hope the similarity ends there.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1296 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:09 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Teban54 wrote:384 hr 0z GFS wants September 10, 2023 to be like September 10, 2017 :lol:

It even wants them to get the I, J and K names in the exact same order as their 2017 versions too, since GFS still refuses to develop the Caribbean system.
https://i.postimg.cc/QdJzN79T/image.png

The same gfs that cant sniff out the yucatan system a few days in advance :D :D :D


Poor GFS...damned when it does, and damned when it doesn't... :raincloud: :raincloud:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1297 Postby weeniepatrol » Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:55 pm

Globals hinting at this wave along 40W amplifying a little. Maybe something else to watch?



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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1298 Postby NotSparta » Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:18 am

weeniepatrol wrote:Globals hinting at this wave along 40W amplifying a little. Maybe something else to watch?

https://imgur.com/iNgJy1C

GFS:

https://i.imgur.com/cjivfYG.png

https://imgur.com/k1bdzfx
EC:

https://i.imgur.com/efq1K0H.png

https://imgur.com/H1tgBrT


If it can avoid land it probably has a shot at doing something in the Caribbean. Conditions being modeled there in ~5 days with a wave moving in argue for the possibility of something. Low probability but it is peak season
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1299 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:21 am

6z GFS gets to 1001mb with that wave in the BOC. Will be interesting to watch over the next several days. Could be a sleeper
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1300 Postby IcyTundra » Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:05 am

Going have to keep an eye on that wave moving into the Caribbean by the middle of next week. Operational GFS has been trending stronger with it.
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