2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1361 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:40 am

chaser1 wrote:I'm convinced. Someone has neutered the GFS LOL.
EURO, GEM, and ICON all showing a disturbance near 35W at about 138 hours. I'm hardly seeing GFS ensemble evidence of this feature.


CMC,ICON have it pretty instant fish.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1362 Postby Kat5 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:43 am

So many fishes so little time!
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1363 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:44 am

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chaser1 wrote:I'm convinced. Someone has neutered the GFS LOL.
EURO, GEM, and ICON all showing a disturbance near 35W at about 138 hours. I'm hardly seeing GFS ensemble evidence of this feature.


CMC,ICON have it pretty instant fish.

CMC dips it south somewhat at the end of the run.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1364 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:06 pm

Kat5 wrote:So many fishes so little time!


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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1365 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:15 pm

GFS has it as a strong wave moving thru PR on the 10th.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1366 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:33 pm

Have to see what's going on with the GFS. It messed up pretty badly with Franklin and Idalia.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1367 Postby zzzh » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:08 pm

I'd ignore the GFS. The only thing GFS did right this month was caving to Euro :lol:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1368 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:52 pm

How is that shutdown going? :roll:

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1369 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:59 pm

12z Euro looking quite interesting. If that ridge holds, may have a player for the east coast to contend with. Definitely a concern for the islands as we move into late next week.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1370 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:59 pm

High is moving in tandem with it.... :eek:

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1371 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:01 pm

The ensembles will be very interesting.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1372 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:03 pm

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1373 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:05 pm


Cut off low is there, likely a Carolinas threat if you want to play fantasy past 240.
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HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1374 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:07 pm


Looks like peak hurricane season...when do the fish posts start on this one?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1375 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:13 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:

Cut off low is there, likely a Carolinas threat if you want to play fantasy past 240.


Who knows..
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1376 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:30 pm

The Euro did predict Idalia well before the GFS, but it and the CMC do seem to have a bit of an MDR bias. If they still have this MDR runner in a few days and the GFS (or its ensembles) start picking up on it, then that’ll be big. Perhaps this could be our big ACE-maker of the season.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1377 Postby LarryWx » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:31 pm

The 12Z UKMET still has that MDR TC that the Euro and other models have though it isn't as strong as the 0Z:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 84 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 84 : 10.1N 20.2W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 03.09.2023 84 10.1N 20.2W 1009 28
1200UTC 03.09.2023 96 10.3N 22.8W 1009 25
0000UTC 04.09.2023 108 12.1N 26.6W 1009 26
1200UTC 04.09.2023 120 12.4N 30.5W 1008 27
0000UTC 05.09.2023 132 12.9N 34.2W 1008 29
1200UTC 05.09.2023 144 13.4N 38.2W 1007 31
0000UTC 06.09.2023 156 13.9N 41.0W 1006 33
1200UTC 06.09.2023 168 14.2N 44.3W 1004 38
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1378 Postby Cachondo23 » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:48 pm

cycloneye wrote:GFS has it as a strong wave moving thru PR on the 10th.

PR always has something in its area in that timeframe 9/10-9/20, climo is on its favor.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1379 Postby zzzh » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:01 pm

The second wave is likely overdone on deterministic EC.
EPS trended north with the first wave.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1380 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:24 pm

EPS looks fishy.
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Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
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