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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#841 Postby zal0phus » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:02 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


130 kt and 934 mb. I feel like the pressure will lag behind the wind somewhat
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#842 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:02 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


943mb's, 131knots at flight level, 124knots smrf. First pass through northeastern quad.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#843 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:03 pm

abajan wrote:
hipshot wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:I'm going with recon finding 125kt and 922mb. Recon should be starting their descent here shortly...just passed 55w


My thoughts are with these brave souls flying into this storm, I read the account of a recon with Irma (I think) that almost took them
down. Pretty f'ing scary!!!!

Unfortunately, one of the recon missions into Janet in '55 didn't turn out that way.

Yeah, I heard that story, thankfully, the planes are stronger now compared to the 1950s.

But, a very sad story. :(
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#844 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:06 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


127kts 934mb
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#845 Postby mitchell » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:06 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


115 kt winds, 945 mb.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#846 Postby verruckt » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:06 pm

A lot of posters, news media, etc. trying to go with definite on recurves or impacts need to pay attention to this from the 5PM discussion:

Confidence remains high in the track for Lee, with almost no change
made to the NHC track forecast. Lee should continue moving
west-northwestward along the southern edge of the subtropical ridge
for the next 5 days. The ridge is forecast to gradually weaken by
early next week, causing Lee to slow down. This track should keep
the core of Lee and its damaging winds north of the Leeward Islands.
There is uncertainty in any northward turn of Lee beginning early
next week
, but it is too soon to speculate about specific potential
impacts a week or more out
.


No one, again, not even computer models know what this storm is going to do a week from now. We need all the recon data, soundings, etc. ingested into models that we can get, and that still has yet to happen.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#847 Postby USTropics » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:08 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#848 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:08 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


I'll be the contrarian: 940mb, 135kt flight level, 99kt SFMR
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#849 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:08 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


just to be that guy, I'm going 923mb 140 knots.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#850 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:10 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#851 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:11 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


I’m going to be a bit conservative and say 120-125 kt (blended estimate from FL+SFMR) and 935-945 mbar. But I won’t be shocked if I’m 10-15 kt and mbar too weak.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#852 Postby Abdullah » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:11 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#853 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:14 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#854 Postby IsabelaWeather » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:15 pm

TorSkk wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:If this is another warm-eye overperformance, the Dvorak estimates might need to look at greater eye adjustments. After all, comparing Dorian to Eta (very warm eye with mostly W vs. sub-freezing eye with CDG), you'd think looking at it on conventional satellite, Eta was much stronger when in reality Dorian was the stronger storm.

Only time will tell.


Yeah, eye is getting very warm and uniform, but we simply won't get a DT higher than 7.0 as I don't believe a CMG ring is possible here. So basically Dvorak is maxed out with Lee, unless we base on MET


Why is it that the CDO maxes out around -75C in the NATL, at similar latitudes to the WPAC that gets a complete ring of -80-(-90) could tops?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#855 Postby Chris90 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:16 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Alright folks, time to get those guesses in... what's recon about to find?

Since I always seem to overestimate these "what will recon find" predictions, I'm going with a conservative 120 kts and 941 mb- with the only rational being the winds haven't caught up to the structure yet- but they will by morning...


My guess: 928mb and 152kts peak at flight level for 135-140 at surface estimate.

Microwave looks just like Dorian when he was peaking. I just don't think Lee has had quite enough time to get there yet.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#856 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:27 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#857 Postby Beef Stew » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:30 pm



Reminiscent of Dorian.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#858 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:30 pm

Ten minutes to go, folks. One more dataset.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#859 Postby USTropics » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:33 pm

SW to NE pass incoming:
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#860 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:34 pm

Get the popcorn ready everyone.
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