ATL: LEE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#901 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:58 pm

zzzh wrote:Why is recon data not updating?


It happens. They're in the middle of the Atlantic in the most powerful storm on the planet at the moment. Not unusual (perhaps even common) to have delayed reports or dropped data points.

No cause for alarm
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#902 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:59 pm

I hope that pass didn't cause damage to the recon's ability to transmit. They were having pretty wild fluctuations in altitude there.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#903 Postby verruckt » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:59 pm

I feel we're about to see history being made... and lessons being learned...
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#904 Postby wx98 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:59 pm

TallyTracker wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
aspen wrote:Winds at 934mb are 34 kt so maybe the drop was something like 936/25 or 936/30, which would support 930-932 mbar, right?


That would support about 933 mb at the surface.


That would follow the trend of the NOAA planes being about 4-5 MB too low on the extrapolations. Still 20 MB lower than the 5 pm advisory…


But this is an AF plane…
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#905 Postby Chris90 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:59 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
aspen wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Dropsonde: 936 mb, uncertain winds.

There is a ridge to the north and high background pressures so winds will be stronger than expected for that pressure (936 usually means about 125 kt).

Winds at 934mb are 34 kt so maybe the drop was something like 936/25 or 936/30, which would support 930-932 mbar, right?


That would support about 933 mb at the surface.


That drop looked to me like it was close to the edge of the eye and not in the center. With a tight pressure gradient and the 928mb extrap, I would guess the pressure is closer to 930mb.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#906 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:00 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Aaaand recon is having transmission issues. Worst timing
More comms problems, incredible
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#907 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:00 pm

Recon is back but it's missing a set
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#908 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:01 pm

We’re back. Data is starting to show up on TT.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#909 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:01 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
MarioProtVI wrote:Aaaand recon is having transmission issues. Worst timing
More comms problems, incredible


They're in a category 4 or 5 hurricane's eye at low level a thousand miles from home. What are we expecting?

Transmissions have resumed in any case.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#910 Postby zzzh » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:02 pm

FL 148kt
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#911 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:03 pm

zzzh wrote:FL 148kt


Enough confidence to blend it to 140 kt there.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#912 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:03 pm

I’m guessing no special advisory?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#913 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:03 pm

I'd say that 148knt flight level with the 144knt smrf is enough to upgrade to a cat5!
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#914 Postby TorSkk » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:04 pm

aspen wrote:I’m guessing no special advisory?

Maybe a small update in a few minutes?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#915 Postby Hammy » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:04 pm

Guessing they find a Cat 5 on the next pass, given they went through a weaker quadrant
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#916 Postby WalterWhite » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:04 pm

148 kt fight level winds support an upgrade to 135 kt, just shy of a Category V storm.
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#917 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:05 pm

dukeblue219 wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
MarioProtVI wrote:Aaaand recon is having transmission issues. Worst timing
More comms problems, incredible


They're in a category 4 or 5 hurricane's eye at low level a thousand miles from home. What are we expecting?

Transmissions have resumed in any case.
If they say it was because of the intense system, I will certainly accept that. Hopefully its a safe flight.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#918 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:06 pm

aspen wrote:I’m guessing no special advisory?

Might wait for the next pass
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#919 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:06 pm

I'd lean on the smrf and go 140knts.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#920 Postby zzzh » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:06 pm

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Beautiful
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