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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1301 Postby Itryatgolf » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:02 pm

Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1302 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:09 pm

Almost all of this is about N Texas or further North. I know we are 10 days out and everything will change, but what I just saw in this thread is telling me our range in Houston, depending on model used, is 0 or a little below up yo 28. Any thoughts on this? I am especially interested in WXman57's take on this, especially the Winter weather person at his office is just down the hall from him.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1303 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:13 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?


Day 10 Euro Ens, great look for widespread US cold then by Day 15, MJO warm phase influence starts showing up for a possible relaxation period

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1304 Postby Itryatgolf » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:31 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?


Day 10 Euro Ens, great look for widespread US cold then by Day 15, MJO warm phase influence starts showing up for a possible relaxation period

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/nhemi/z500_anom/1704456000/1705320000-QqkQp7U6sq4.png
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/nhemi/t2m_f_anom/1704456000/1705320000-ZyOJJ19IivI.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/nhemi/z500_anom/1704456000/1705752000-EeoYnxKvZdM.png

I'm hoping we can find a way to get a winter event in the upcoming cold pattern, especially if the mjo warm phases take over eventually and who knows how long it lasts once it warms up
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1305 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:38 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?


Day 10 Euro Ens, great look for widespread US cold then by Day 15, MJO warm phase influence starts showing up for a possible relaxation period

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/nhemi/z500_anom/1704456000/1705320000-QqkQp7U6sq4.png
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/nhemi/t2m_f_anom/1704456000/1705320000-ZyOJJ19IivI.png

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-ensemble-avg/nhemi/z500_anom/1704456000/1705752000-EeoYnxKvZdM.png

I'm hoping we can find a way to get a winter event in the upcoming cold pattern, especially if the mjo warm phases take over eventually and who knows how long it lasts once it warms up


Yep, February is usually the month for that but this pattern is primed for many to cash-in this month
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1306 Postby Itryatgolf » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:41 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1307 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:44 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?


Day 10 Euro Ens, great look for widespread US cold then by Day 15, MJO warm phase influence starts showing up for a possible relaxation period



In addition to the MJO, the retrograde of the NPAC pattern is starting to show up in the longer ranges. MJO warm phases + NPAC retrograde = Pacific air flood and probably an active weather pattern across Texas. Should bring more rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1308 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:49 pm


Fixed the tweet for you ;)
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1309 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:51 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?


Day 10 Euro Ens, great look for widespread US cold then by Day 15, MJO warm phase influence starts showing up for a possible relaxation period



In addition to the MJO, the retrograde of the NPAC pattern is starting to show up in the longer ranges. MJO warm phases + NPAC retrograde = Pacific air flood and probably an active weather pattern across Texas. Should bring more rain.


GEFS ext and Euro Weeklies very similar looking with the reload starting early February

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1310 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:17 pm

The Happy Hour GFS does not deliver for next week. The 18z 12k NAM is even north of the GFS, and the same for the 18z RGEM; it's north of the Canadian.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1311 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:29 pm

So it looks like this will just be a dry blast of cold air for a few days, then a January thaw with rain chances returning, and then a chance for more cold weather coming early February.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1312 Postby HockeyTx82 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:31 pm

bubba hotep wrote:The Happy Hour GFS does not deliver for next week. The 18z 12k NAM is even north of the GFS, and the same for the 18z RGEM; it's north of the Canadian.


I've already moved on into the Spring thread so.......

Can the models, or you all with shirts that have the models names be my pallbearers at my funeral?

So you can let me down one last time?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1313 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:31 pm

Cpv17 eh i wouldnt say its dry just yet, still 7-8 days out, it can flip,
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1314 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:44 pm

18z GFS finally sees the push of arcitc air all the way down to the gulf coast
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1315 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:49 pm

Cpv17 wrote:So it looks like this will just be a dry blast of cold air for a few days, then a January thaw with rain chances returning, and then a chance for more cold weather coming early February.


Way to early to write off wintry precip for the coming 2 weeks
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1316 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:52 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Cpv17 eh i wouldnt say its dry just yet, still 7-8 days out, it can flip,


I’d say it’s possible but not likely at this point. Still excited either way but man it would be so much better with a winter storm. It’s kinda deflating and sucking some of the excitement out of this cold blast for me.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1317 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:53 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:So it looks like this will just be a dry blast of cold air for a few days, then a January thaw with rain chances returning, and then a chance for more cold weather coming early February.


Way to early to write off wintry precip for the coming 2 weeks


I hope you’re right! I’m just discouraged by the models right now and the CPC forecast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1318 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:56 pm

Cpv17 oh i get it! Im the same, cold without wintry precip is wasted cold, however the 18z GFS did take a step in the right direction, trough digs a but more into the baja penninsula, moisture just clears out before the arctic air moves in, but its so close,
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1319 Postby Gotwood » Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:00 pm

Cpv17 wrote:So it looks like this will just be a dry blast of cold air for a few days, then a January thaw with rain chances returning, and then a chance for more cold weather coming early February.

This is the way it’s looking has a DEC22 feel which only delivered some flurries or a light dusting with the arrival of the front. Oklahoma and Kansas however might get hammered.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1320 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:16 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:Anyone have the 12z euro eps at 500mb and 2m?


Day 10 Euro Ens, great look for widespread US cold then by Day 15, MJO warm phase influence starts showing up for a possible relaxation period



In addition to the MJO, the retrograde of the NPAC pattern is starting to show up in the longer ranges. MJO warm phases + NPAC retrograde = Pacific air flood and probably an active weather pattern across Texas. Should bring more rain.


I'm looking forward to that more than the cold. We need more rain across south and central TX. Especially before La Nina gets going later this year.
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