ATL: BERYL - Models

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#241 Postby tolakram » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:27 am

6Z euro is a little north of 0Z. Continues a non-trend of back and forth from 0Z to 12Z.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#242 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:24 am

ICON will bring a significant hurricane into Texas again. Northeast of the 0z run so far.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#243 Postby hurricane2025 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:26 am

Won’t be south Texas
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#244 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:27 am

hurricane2025 wrote:Won’t be south Texas


You're right - spoke too soon. This will actually get uncomfortably close to Houston this run.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#245 Postby USTropics » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:33 am

12z ICON, end of run loop as it nears Texas coastline:
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#246 Postby shah83 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:38 am

Right attack angle for humongous surge from the icon, there.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#247 Postby Sailingtime » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:54 am

I enjoy the way we can "see" into the future with these forecast tracks but as we know all too well the steering currents can and do change. Hope it goes in further South of Houston and miss CONUS completely.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#248 Postby 3090 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:00 am

Sailingtime wrote:I enjoy the way we can "see" into the future with these forecast tracks but as we know all too well the steering currents can and do change. Hope it goes in further South of Houston and miss CONUS completely.

If a hurricane is some what pointed coming towards your area at this point (7+ days out), you should feel good. The models will change this far out. Guaranteed! And these models at that length will certainly swing pretty wildly.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#249 Postby jaguars_22 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:04 am

I agree! It’s been numerous times that we in Texas have been hit by models and it ends up going to Louisiana! I think beryl hits Corpus Christi as a strong hurricane… just my opinion… further south it goes in Caribbean the further south landfall in us will be…
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#250 Postby HoustonFrog » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:25 am

It will end in Louisiana as usual.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#251 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:27 am

12z Canadian and GFS both take it to TX in a little over a week. Still far out, but I don't like the northward trends in the models lately.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#252 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:29 am

South Texas Storms wrote:12z Canadian and GFS both take it to TX in a little over a week. Still far out, but I don't like the northward trends in the models lately.


Yes. I noticed that the GFS shows that the system begins to stall off the coast of Mexico and then is picked up by a digging trough. This trough seems like it is going to play a critical role in the track based on timing and storm position.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#253 Postby 3090 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:31 am

South Texas Storms wrote:12z Canadian and GFS both take it to TX in a little over a week. Still far out, but I don't like the northward trends in the models lately.


It initially started sniffing north a lil bit yesterday. But we STILL are a good 7 days out from ANY POSSIBLE U.S. landfall. I will be very much concerned say come Tuesday if these trends continue.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#254 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:34 am

Model runs starting to humble those who declared the gulf safe a few days ago.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#255 Postby 3090 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:40 am

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:Model runs starting to humble those who declares the gulf safe a few days ago.

Very possibly true it APPEARS as time moves on.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#256 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:44 am

HAFS-B will be too weak with central pressure by ~20 mb at 21z. Can't say I've ever seen a regional hurricane model too weak with forecast verification by 20 mb.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#257 Postby CaneCurious » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:19 pm

HoustonFrog wrote:It will end in Louisiana as usual.


Shush it. lol
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#258 Postby jabman98 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:36 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:
hurricane2025 wrote:Won’t be south Texas


You're right - spoke too soon. This will actually get uncomfortably close to Houston this run.

UGH! I am not liking these model runs. Hopefully the usual takes apply for runs this far out. I haven't even finished dealing with post-derecho storm issues. Don't need a hurricane.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#259 Postby Steve » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:53 pm

tolakram wrote:
Javlin wrote:
tolakram wrote:
IT IS NOT, there is verification to prove it. This is the second time you've been corrected.

I remember Mark weras CMC was the most accurate with Ivan 2004 I think if memory serves me right ?


2004? Most certainly not. It's been much better since a recent upgrade just a few years ago. It's now tied and sometimes beats the GFS within 5 days according to verification. Now, in my opinion, longer than 5 days both are mostly entertainment. When they are correct it's hard to say they are actually correct vs lucky. :lol:


Quick off topic I’m pretty sure it was the UKMET that showed the loop back down the Atlantic and into the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#260 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:54 pm

Euro initializes the storm at 995 mb, almost 40 mb on where its actually yet, you can pretty much toss that model run in the trash, comically bad
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