ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2041 Postby Nederlander » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:56 am

jaguars_22 wrote:Latest gfs is good news! Much weaker!
Looking at the satellite I’m sure it’s probably back up to 970 mb or higher… what you think?

Recon has 953 mb so far
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2042 Postby zzzh » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am

Dropsonde has 960mb. Winds will be weakening a bit slower than the pressure but it will catch up.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2043 Postby TomballEd » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:00 pm

Has WxMan57 posted with his thoughts about the final MX/STX landfall location and intensity ideas since the 0Z models w/ G-IV data? In 20 years on weather forums, his is the professional voice I trust in the tropics.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2044 Postby underthwx » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:08 pm

TomballEd wrote:Has WxMan57 posted with his thoughts about the final MX/STX landfall location and intensity ideas since the 0Z models w/ G-IV data? In 20 years on weather forums, his is the professional voice I trust in the tropics.

Im sure xman is plenty busy providing forecasts for his clients....but fear not....plenty of expertise right here....
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2045 Postby Wthrfan » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:10 pm

I'm just a weather lover with no training and lurk on here mainly in the winter. What I do know is that WxMan57 really wishes this was a Blue Norther bringing some sleet and snow to Houston! :lol:
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2046 Postby 3090 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:12 pm

jaguars_22 wrote:Latest gfs is good news! Much weaker!
Looking at the satellite I’m sure it’s probably back up to 970 mb or higher… what you think?

Both the GFS and EURO models have poorly handled the intensity of Beryl. I would be cautious with the Beryl forecast of both the GFS and EURO on Beryl. I would think they both will be better with future systems this season as Beryl has been such an anomalous system from jump.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2047 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:14 pm

underthwx wrote:
TomballEd wrote:Has WxMan57 posted with his thoughts about the final MX/STX landfall location and intensity ideas since the 0Z models w/ G-IV data? In 20 years on weather forums, his is the professional voice I trust in the tropics.

Im sure xman is plenty busy providing forecasts for his clients....but fear not....plenty of expertise right here....



Wxman 57 ( and the person playing him on TV) are on assignment. They will be back soon to provide their valuable insight and witticisms to our board. :D
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2048 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:22 pm

Noooo they moved the goes meso sector floater off of Beryl to some showers on the gulf coast.

Edit: Ope, they just brought it back
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2049 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:22 pm

Very rapid pressure rise, Beryl's getting the stuffing knocked out of it.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2050 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:28 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Very rapid pressure rise, Beryl's getting the stuffing knocked out of it.

It's not doing too bad actually.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2051 Postby Odeseus » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:37 pm

Anyone else notice a “blob” structure to the east? Reminds me of Matthew in the same general location in 2016.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2052 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:38 pm

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2053 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:40 pm

Odeseus wrote:Anyone else notice a “blob” structure to the east? Reminds me of Matthew in the same general location in 2016.


A smaller one is to the south of that.
IMHO its an indication of a feeder band with associated vigorous convection
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2054 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:40 pm

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2055 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:44 pm


Looks like it’s trying to wrap around the core agaib
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2056 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:48 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:

Looks like it’s trying to wrap around the core agaib

And outflow has actually expanded a bit. Looks a little rounder now. It may not weaken much more if this keeps up
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2057 Postby Odeseus » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:58 pm

GCANE wrote:
Odeseus wrote:Anyone else notice a “blob” structure to the east? Reminds me of Matthew in the same general location in 2016.


A smaller one is to the south of that.
IMHO its an indication of a feeder band with associated vigorous convection


I’m not so sure on that. Feeder band at least try to wrap around. This feature shows no sign of rotating around the core of the hurricane. It is firmly planted almost due east of the center.

It is also almost completely cut off from the rest of the system. And it seems stable. Been a feature for a while. For Matthew, the “blob” existed for a LONG time directly to the east of the system, while also being relatively cut off. That smaller burst to the southeast popped and is fading already. But the “blob” stays.

Finally, the cloud tops in the “blob” are just as intense on IR as the core of the system. I can’t recall another system besides Matthew that had a similar feature. Feeder bands don’t have cloud tops that match or exceed the core. Something else is going on here.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2058 Postby weatherman2004 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:08 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:

Looks like it’s trying to wrap around the core agaib


I agree. Looks like it but not sure.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2059 Postby Teban54 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:10 pm

Just when we thought Beryl was stripped of almost all convective activity to the south, here we are: -90C towers brute forcing their way through the southern eyewall.

(Note: VDM showed the eyewall was still closed as of an hour ago.)

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2060 Postby chaser1 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:13 pm

Satellite presentation suggests to me a now southeast LLC beginning to decouple from a MLC running ahead and to the NW of said LLC. I would venture to guess we'll see significant filling and a precipitous drop in the surface winds during the coming 4-6 hours
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