ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2381 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:43 am

Yeah, now that Beryl is trying to develop a visible eye (YET AGAIN, lol), I am pretty confident to say that it is tracking more northward than many of the current model guidance suggests. And I have yet to see a movement due W or WSW.

In other words, I'm really starting to get antsy about what it's going to do in the Gulf and the dangers it might pose toward Texas.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2382 Postby bbadon » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:45 am

I have followed this board for many many years and I have learned an incredible amount by everyone and for that I am grateful. I'm just a tropical weather enthusiast and very rarely post but I have a question. As the ULL over the gulf is obviously shearing the system to a degree, is that not causing the MLC to be tugged to the /north/northeast at least a bit and influencing the LLC to cause the northerly component we see to last longer than expected? Or is it decoupling?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2383 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:48 am

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2384 Postby kevco » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:53 am

Category5Kaiju wrote:Yeah, now that Beryl is trying to develop a visible eye (YET AGAIN, lol), I am pretty confident to say that it is tracking more northward than many of the current model guidance suggests. And I have yet to see a movement due W or WSW.

In other words, I'm really starting to get antsy about what it's going to do in the Gulf and the dangers it might pose toward Texas.

I agree, most likely track adjustments will need to be made. Closer to Galveston/ Tx-LA border.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2385 Postby Kazmit » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:53 am


Looking like a storm that will not hesitate to take off once the shear abates a little more.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2387 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:57 am

tolakram wrote:So I see more shear today, not less, and I think it's tilting NE now, which is causing a lot of "this wasn't supposed to happen" posts on social media. One never knows, but without seeing the lower levels I think it's still on track.


https://i.imgur.com/Pmg6r6m.gif

source: https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/#

I’m not sure I agree. That map shows the 11am updated track, which has been nudged slightly north from previous forecasts. Beryl is at about 19.2-19.3N now, and looks like it’ll hit 19.5N before 84W, based on its current heading. Last night’s 11pm advisory didn’t have that occurring until 86.7W.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2388 Postby Horn1991 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:58 am

tolakram wrote:So I see more shear today, not less, and I think it's tilting NE now, which is causing a lot of "this wasn't supposed to happen" posts on social media. One never knows, but without seeing the lower levels I think it's still on track.


https://i.imgur.com/Pmg6r6m.gif

source: https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/#



I think you are dead on with this idea.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2389 Postby TheAustinMan » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:01 pm

tolakram wrote:So I see more shear today, not less, and I think it's tilting NE now, which is causing a lot of "this wasn't supposed to happen" posts on social media. One never knows, but without seeing the lower levels I think it's still on track.

https://i.imgur.com/Pmg6r6m.gif


The upper-level trough causing the northeasterly flow is moving west in tandem with Beryl, and as trades slow in the western Caribbean, this will reduce wind shear magnitude gradually over the course of the day. Overall, conditions improve over the next ~18 or so hours between now and the Yucatan Peninsula. Cayman Islands radar data indicates that the core has plenty of work to do if Beryl is to intensify substantially, but the "skeleton" so to speak is there. All in all, the upper-level environment is not ideal, but robust ocean heat content may give Beryl some leverage in dealing with the wind shear later today into tonight, especially if it is to taper off as modeled storm-environment hodographs suggest:

Source: AOML Hurricane Model Viewer
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The satellite observed dimple on visible imagery is consistent with the eye observed by recon, though the eyewall is currently weaker/open to the west.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2390 Postby zhukm29 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:03 pm

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2391 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:12 pm

Unless she starts turning west, it looks like Beryl wants to make its way to Cancun for some fun at the LeBlanc Spa Resort.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2392 Postby jaguars_22 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:14 pm

I don’t think the NHC is that far off! No way it hits Cancun??!!
Cozumel is more likely even south of there?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2393 Postby kevco » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:18 pm

UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:Unless she starts turning west, it looks like Beryl wants to make its way to Cancun for some fun at the LeBlanc Spa Resort.



Barely brushes tip of Yucatán, slows forward motion then begins NNW motion tonite and early tomorrow, landfall Tx/ La border Monday evening Tuesday morning.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2395 Postby LearnedHat » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:22 pm

Need to have two discussion boards:

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2396 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:25 pm

jaguars_22 wrote:I don’t think the NHC is that far off! No way it hits Cancun??!!
Cozumel is more likely even south of there?

Even if the eye hits Cozumel/Playa Del Carmen, Cancun is only ~42 miles away. I would assume that would put them well within the eyewall.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2397 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:30 pm

Don't read too much into wobbles. Should track south of Cozumel (maybe not too far south) and make landfall south of Brownsville. Of course, the key will be how much the core is destroyed over the Yucatan tomorrow. If it's really torn up, then a farther south track is likely. HAFS-A and HAFS-B shifted south to near Tampico.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2398 Postby Hurricane2022 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:36 pm

Ah yes Beryl, we already know you are strengtheing again despite the strong shear. Now go play outside and stop bothering us.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2399 Postby Bimms » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:38 pm

I don't think it's just a wobble, I didn't think it's going south of Cozumel. Unless she really takes a sharp south turn, she's going to skirt the tip of the Yucatan, almost shooting the gap. I've been saying this for a while now. I'm no meteorologist, but with the way this storm has been behaving, it's a safe bet to go against the models and traditional models.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2400 Postby 3090 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:45 pm

wxman57 wrote:Don't read too much into wobbles. Should track south of Cozumel (maybe not too far south) and make landfall south of Brownsville. Of course, the key will be how much the core is destroyed over the Yucatan tomorrow. If it's really torn up, then a farther south track is likely. HAFS-A and HAFS-B shifted south to near Tampico.

Levi has a new video just published: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpC6Z_OCI-0


Wobbles? I have not really taken note of any wobbles. I do see a very steady 285 heading. It would need to head at a 270 heading or less to land below Cozumel like right now and in the immediate future.
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