ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3021 Postby Nimbus » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:05 pm

Frank P wrote:Nimbus
The dry lower levels are still on track and even the shallow steering model shifts more northerly and keeps Beryl offshore beyond 24 hours.

What does this mean exactly?


As a tropical storm Beryl might follow the shallow steering which is slightly more westerly for the first 24 hours.
You can see the lower level circulation in the video Mark posted.
The shallow steering model aims towards Corpus in the long run so its not heading into Mexico..
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3022 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:20 pm

If Beryl gets in the middle of a PV ring, intensification could be epic.
Looks like it is almost half way there. Its pushing the ULL away to the west.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... oom=&time=
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3023 Postby typhoonty » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:24 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
typhoonty wrote:https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT02/refresh/AL022024_3day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/212133_3day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

IMO, history is not going to look kindly on the NHC failing to issue any kind of tropical product or watch for the Houston MSA, or points east right now on the Friday before a holiday weekend.

Signed, someone who had to deal with way too many people not taking Ian seriously for this reason in Fort Myers.


We're still not in the 48 hour range for Houston. If it moves farther up, it wouldn't make landfall until late Monday or even very early Tuesday.


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That is not what the NHC's own graphic seems to imply, which the earliest possible arrival for all of the hurricane watch area and further northeast at roughly the same time, Sunday Afternoon.

Michelle B hit the nail on the head, the point is making sure that Houstonians have a heads up before tomorrow even if they don't watch the news. Tropical products are automatically loaded via gps in to a phones default weather app. If someone didn't watch the news and goes to bed at 10:30, they might not know until tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3024 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:29 pm

Latest eye drop shows a super-saturated core.
Slightly north of forecast track
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3025 Postby Frank P » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:38 pm

tolakram wrote:MLC is fading. We've been here before, and I swear usually a hot tower fired around the LLC just at or after sunset. :lol: Emergence timing is everything, but will it happen again?

https://i.imgur.com/4SSFLNd.gif

just notice this convection pop up near the center on the last few images of the IR... not much but perhaps a start? Circled in purple
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3026 Postby Steve » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:41 pm

I hear you typhoonty but people in coastal and near coastal communities have to own their own situations as well. It’s not just the NHC or tv news. If people don’t want to pay attention or simply don’t, whose fault is it? I was talking to this lady at work in May when the government’s extreme seasonal forecast came out. And she waved it off and said “they say that every year” and shook her head. That’s more a macro than an immediate situation but it’s along the same lines. I used to hear, “they always curve away at the last minute.” Then Katrina hit (and a bunch more) and that’s like a wives tale. People gonna believe what they want and tune into what they want. People should be happy they are part of this community and have a lot of advance notice. Jmo.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3027 Postby LARanger » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:56 pm

tolakram wrote:Faster loop makes it easier to see. LLC is west of MLC I think, and you can see it near the end of the loop.

https://i.imgur.com/LOMY3QV.gif


If you were suggesting a new eye like the poster right above your post, recon doesn't seem to concur:

https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 3#p3073523
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3028 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:10 pm

The 7pm advisory they kept the cone pretty much like the 4pm. Do they not update given the 18z runs? Asking for a friend.. :ggreen:
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3029 Postby Frank P » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:11 pm

ROCK wrote:The 7pm advisory they kept the cone pretty much like the 4pm. Do they not update given the 18z runs? Asking for a friend.. :ggreen:

Cone is updated at 10 pm CDT
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3030 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:11 pm

ROCK wrote:The 7pm advisory they kept the cone pretty much like the 4pm. Do they not update given the 18z runs? Asking for a friend.. :ggreen:

The update the cone at 5 and 11 not on intermediate advisories
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3031 Postby Charleswachal » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:11 pm

ROCK wrote:The 7pm advisory they kept the cone pretty much like the 4pm. Do they not update given the 18z runs? Asking for a friend.. :ggreen:


The cone is not updated until the 10:00 p.m. advisory. The 4:00 p.m. advisory does not have an updated cone
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3032 Postby GalvestonWXGeek » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:13 pm

The crowds are enormous on Galveston island this weekend. It will be an absolute madhouse here on Sunday with both visitors and residents fleeing (assuming Beryl strikes near-South). Presumably, there will be better guidance tomorrow morning.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3033 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:14 pm

Frank P wrote:
ROCK wrote:The 7pm advisory they kept the cone pretty much like the 4pm. Do they not update given the 18z runs? Asking for a friend.. :ggreen:

Cone is updated at 10 pm CDT


Ah ha…been here since 2005 and still learn something new every year!!
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3034 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:20 pm

So are people expecting an eastward shift in the cone? Putting NOLA in the cone?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3035 Postby longhorn2004 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:21 pm

Gulf temps are 85 degrees. There is some shear over the Gulf, no doubt the Cold front that is blowing through Texas right now dropping temps by 15 degrees. Also Beryl should be sucking in some dry air to the west of it. Bon Appetit Beryl.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3036 Postby sphelps8681 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:22 pm

ROCK wrote:The 7pm advisory they kept the cone pretty much like the 4pm. Do they not update given the 18z runs? Asking for a friend.. :ggreen:


Watch they will do it in the dead of night. In the morning we will wake up with this storm is amazing see what happened over night. LOL.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3037 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:35 pm

[quote="MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS"]So are people expecting an eastward shift in the cone? Putting NOLA in the cone?[/quote

Idk about all the way to NOLA but I wouldn’t be surprised if TX LA border got in the cone at some point if these right shifts continue.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3038 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:39 pm

ROCK wrote:
MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:So are people expecting an eastward shift in the cone? Putting NOLA in the cone?[/quote

Idk about all the way to NOLA but I wouldn’t be surprised if TX LA border got in the cone at some point if these right shifts continue.


SW Louisiana is already in the cone, and more than just the border.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3039 Postby TropicalWinds » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:43 pm

I fully expect Beryl’s impact to be much more substantial than is currently projected for those of us here in Southwest Louisiana. I do think the core will make landfall in Texas, but given the trends we’ve seen today, I think it’ll be close enough to the border for us to experience a good bit of wind, rain, possibly even some surge.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3040 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:45 pm

I'm hopeful Beryl's intensity will be manageble. Seems like people on twitter are more bearish about Beryl's future intensity.
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