Possible development in the Western Atlantic / GOM (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#201 Postby Spacecoast » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:49 am

CMC, Euro, & UK show genesis probability of 51% near SFL....
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#202 Postby Frank P » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:54 am

I don't ever recall tracking an uglier wave for as long as I have been tracking on this system...
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#203 Postby boca » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:01 am

Tracking this system is like waiting on an afternoon thunderstorm that never materializes.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#204 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:06 am

The real feature is the very large wave just behind the one the NHC mentions. It will be overtaking the first wave and adding its energy to the mix. Neither has much convection now, but that should change near the Bahamas or in the eastern Gulf on Saturday. I think NHC will be bumping chances up to 70-80% by Wednesday, with development just beyond 48 hours by then. I'm thinking that chances are as high as 90% by this weekend. Another working weekend for me. We already have clients requesting conference calls.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#205 Postby lsuhurricane » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:23 am

12z GFS continues to keep this strung out and finally consolidates a vort near the FL/AL coastline. Does have some ensemble support for that...so who knows
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#206 Postby LarryWx » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:26 am

12Z UKMET: still has a TD though not as strong as the 0Z’s TS that had skimmed the SE FL coast at Palm Beach. The new run delays TCG til it is 50 miles NE of Cape Canaveral. It then moves NE to 150 miles E of Amelia Island, FL:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 156 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+156 : 29.0N 80.1W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 05.08.2024 156 29.0N 80.1W 1008 31
1200UTC 05.08.2024 168 30.6N 79.0W 1008 34
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#207 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:27 am

Big difference in models, GFS has more of a blocking pattern and cuts off the weakness to its north, not allowing for an escape path up the east coast or out to sea
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#208 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:39 am

Interesting how the 12z gfs just stalls it offshore of MS/LA for like most of next week (Monday night-Friday)
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#209 Postby LarryWx » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:49 am

12Z CMC is further E and much weaker with just a weak low over SE FL/NW Bahamas. But then it gets stronger as it moves NE offshore NC and becomes a TS moving further OTS.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#210 Postby toad strangler » Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:47 pm

12z Euro weakish 1008mb and comes close to the FL peninsula before moving N into SC and seems to stall just inland.... hardly moving 192 hours through to end at 240.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#211 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:57 pm

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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#212 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:13 pm


No sweat, clean side of the storm. If the EPS weren't trending offshore I would be on orange alert.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#213 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:13 pm

That stall on both models (GFS around MS/LA and Euro with the South Carolina low country, even though it goes to different spots) is concerning for flooding.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#214 Postby toad strangler » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:19 pm

12z UKMET landfalls a depression probably in Broward / Palm Beach County area at 138 hours and exits up by Cape Canaveral just after 150 hours heading NNE towards Hatteras.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#215 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:22 pm

BobHarlem yep, once that shortwave leaves the picture, the system could get trapped by ridging until the next trough swings by , if that occurs in the gulf or off the se coast remains to be seen, but definitely concerning seeing that, we know all too well about stalling systems in texas, that would be bad for the se US coast
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#216 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:26 pm

jlauderdal wrote:

No sweat, clean side of the storm. If the EPS weren't trending offshore I would be on orange alert.


No coherent disturbance so we wait. Not looking for a major here which is surely not required for some impacts.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#217 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:32 pm

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12z Euro slight trend W near FL. Marginal TS just off the coast moving towards Carolinas…
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#218 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:33 pm

toad strangler wrote:12z UKMET landfalls a depression probably in Broward / Palm Beach County area at 138 hours and exits up by Cape Canaveral just after 150 hours heading NNE towards Hatteras.

We will take that as long as it keeps moving, we have had three big rain events in 16 months, no sympathy from Houston in the department to be sure, they have been pounded for a few years.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#219 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:33 pm

wxman57 wrote:The real feature is the very large wave just behind the one the NHC mentions. It will be overtaking the first wave and adding its energy to the mix. Neither has much convection now, but that should change near the Bahamas or in the eastern Gulf on Saturday. I think NHC will be bumping chances up to 70-80% by Wednesday, with development just beyond 48 hours by then. I'm thinking that chances are as high as 90% by this weekend. Another working weekend for me. We already have clients requesting conference calls.


Wait, wxman is actually bullish on the formation of a storm? What just happened? :) Doesn't look like it will be much of a storm though if the models are to be trusted.
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Re: Possible development in the central Atlantic (0/50)

#220 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:39 pm

Yeah the GFS/ Euro both have a pattern that could lead to a stall for multiple days , definitely worth monitoring
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