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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#361 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:31 pm

If this southern shift leads to more time in the Gulf, we’re gonna have to watch out to see whether soon-to-be Debby is either sheared or ventilated en route to Florida. The hurricane models are favoring the sheared option, but we’ve seen several examples of storms on this trajectory becoming favorably aligned with a trough and strengthening close to landfall, most notably Michael and Ian (maybe Idalia too if I’m remembering correctly).

I’m still leaning towards a high end TS or low-end hurricane at the moment. Gotta see where the LLC finally consolidates first.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#362 Postby DunedinDave » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:32 pm

Is it possible the center could be near the Cayman Islands? That’s crazy to think it might be that far separated from where the NHC currently has it on their map.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#363 Postby rockice » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:36 pm

LandoWill wrote:If i lived anywhere in Louisiana to Tallahassee i would be preparing, here in land o lakes, not too worried the more it goes west.

you may be right i stay in new orleans
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#364 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:42 pm

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PTC 4 is just about to enter a shearless gulf
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#365 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:44 pm

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#366 Postby Woofde » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:51 pm

I can easily see a run at hurricane with the adjustments to track. It takes very little time with waters this warm, with more distance from Florida as well that means more energy to entrain. Very curious what modeling will suggest at 0z. There should be a hint of shear, though how much and if dry air entrains is a big question.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#367 Postby DunedinDave » Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:57 pm

I haven’t seen any models initialize the center down near the Caymans which is where this may be. So I don’t even know whether to trust any single model.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#369 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:05 pm

rockice wrote:
LandoWill wrote:If i lived anywhere in Louisiana to Tallahassee i would be preparing, here in land o lakes, not too worried the more it goes west.

you may be right i stay in new orleans


Stay tuned for 9-10 days out. 504 probably won’t get it but might be some dicey days ahead for us Gulf of Mexicans.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#370 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:08 pm

Unfortunately you may be right but I’m still not sold
on this going where it’s suppose to go.



Steve wrote:
rockice wrote:
LandoWill wrote:If i lived anywhere in Louisiana to Tallahassee i would be preparing, here in land o lakes, not too worried the more it goes west.

you may be right i stay in new orleans


Stay tuned for 9-10 days out. 504 probably won’t get it but might be some dicey days ahead for us Gulf of Mexicans.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#371 Postby Stormlover70 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:10 pm

rockice wrote:
LandoWill wrote:If i lived anywhere in Louisiana to Tallahassee i would be preparing, here in land o lakes, not too worried the more it goes west.

you may be right i stay in new orleans
very unlikely but possibly
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#372 Postby WaveBreaking » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:10 pm

04L has more of a circular look to it now, and the fact that there's clear easterlies over Cuba N of the latest blowup means that the circulation is most likely trying to focus S of Cuba.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#373 Postby Subtrop » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:13 pm

AL, 04, 2024080300, , BEST, 0, 210N, 791W, 25, 1010, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 75, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, FOUR, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 011,
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#374 Postby WaveBreaking » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:15 pm

Subtrop wrote:
AL, 04, 2024080300, , BEST, 0, 210N, 791W, 25, 1010, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 75, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, FOUR, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 011,


And there we have it.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#375 Postby sponger » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:16 pm

Sure looks like a depression.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#376 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:17 pm

Yeah word. Fluid dynamic physicists and smarter than AI people like GCANE were real timing that things were different. Not sure how far west the track could get. Gun to head says St. George Island And like we been saying for days it’s early august so climo favors ridging most of the time. But I still think it goes in east of there. Maybe Taylor or Dixie County?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#377 Postby sasha_B » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:26 pm

Subtrop wrote:
AL, 04, 2024080300, , BEST, 0, 210N, 791W, 25, 1010, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 75, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, FOUR, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 011,


AL, 04, 2024080300, , BEST, 0, 210N, 791W, 25, 1010, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 150, 75, 35, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, FOUR, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 011,

is what I'm seeing right now on best track. Is it possible there's a discrepancy between two sites hosting this data?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#378 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:29 pm

That is why I always wait until is oficial to change the titles of threads. :D
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#379 Postby weeniepatrol » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:31 pm

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#380 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:33 pm

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