Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (Is Invest 90L)

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (10/10)

#121 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:21 pm

Exactly!!!!

Frank P wrote:Any other year I would place money on that sat image developing in the GOM, and if you were to show me this image before August 10th, I would have placed big money, especially in the year that was forecast to be extremely active. But since Ernesto nothing has been able to spin up anywhere: nada, zip, zero, niente. Strange times indeed mama... I am leaning towards nothing legit being named out of either of these systems...
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#122 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 02, 2024 4:51 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#123 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:31 am

The 0Z UKMET is the first run with a TCG in the NW GOM but not til Fri evening similar to ICON timing: gets to TS strength, meanders around, and then moves NNE into SE LA Mon AM (I’d ignore the strength then as it’s usually too weak):

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 96 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 96 : 27.8N 93.5W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 07.09.2024 96 27.8N 93.5W 1004 35
1200UTC 07.09.2024 108 26.4N 92.8W 1003 38
0000UTC 08.09.2024 120 26.8N 91.9W 1003 35
1200UTC 08.09.2024 132 26.3N 91.9W 1004 35
0000UTC 09.09.2024 144 27.6N 90.3W 1006 33
1200UTC 09.09.2024 156 30.2N 89.6W 1009 30
0000UTC 10.09.2024 168 CEASED TRACKING
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#124 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 03, 2024 5:20 am

LarryWx wrote:The 0Z UKMET is the first run with a TCG in the NW GOM but not til Fri evening similar to ICON timing: gets to TS strength, meanders around, and then moves NNE into SE LA Mon AM (I’d ignore the strength then as it’s usually too weak):

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 96 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 96 : 27.8N 93.5W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 07.09.2024 96 27.8N 93.5W 1004 35
1200UTC 07.09.2024 108 26.4N 92.8W 1003 38
0000UTC 08.09.2024 120 26.8N 91.9W 1003 35
1200UTC 08.09.2024 132 26.3N 91.9W 1004 35
0000UTC 09.09.2024 144 27.6N 90.3W 1006 33
1200UTC 09.09.2024 156 30.2N 89.6W 1009 30
0000UTC 10.09.2024 168 CEASED TRACKING


Notable the UKMET is finally developing something, the NAM is showing something as well around the same time, and if something IS going to form in the Gulf, watching this for trends can be an early indicator

Seems like this (and the UKMET's system) is from the system that was over the Bahamas a few days ago

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#125 Postby Frank P » Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:23 am

Radar loop of system in west GOM. Tap image for loop
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#126 Postby Frank P » Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:29 am

Latest IR sat loops of the system
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#127 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:42 am

Thinking the NHC might highlight the Gulf of Mexico again.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#128 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:04 am

Hammy wrote:
LarryWx wrote:The 0Z UKMET is the first run with a TCG in the NW GOM but not til Fri evening similar to ICON timing: gets to TS strength, meanders around, and then moves NNE into SE LA Mon AM (I’d ignore the strength then as it’s usually too weak):

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 96 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 96 : 27.8N 93.5W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 07.09.2024 96 27.8N 93.5W 1004 35
1200UTC 07.09.2024 108 26.4N 92.8W 1003 38
0000UTC 08.09.2024 120 26.8N 91.9W 1003 35
1200UTC 08.09.2024 132 26.3N 91.9W 1004 35
0000UTC 09.09.2024 144 27.6N 90.3W 1006 33
1200UTC 09.09.2024 156 30.2N 89.6W 1009 30
0000UTC 10.09.2024 168 CEASED TRACKING


Notable the UKMET is finally developing something, the NAM is showing something as well around the same time, and if something IS going to form in the Gulf, watching this for trends can be an early indicator

Seems like this (and the UKMET's system) is from the system that was over the Bahamas a few days ago

https://i.imgur.com/3MKoI9J.png


ICON (12Z) once again has this but not 12Z UKMET.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#129 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:39 am

Nearly all of the 12z mesoscale models have this becoming a TS, and stalling around matagorda bay
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#130 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:41 am

Last week, the ICON had a low developing on a cold front off the TX coast today. Nope. Now it's maybe next week. Probably not.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#131 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:43 am

wxman57 I disagree, the ICON has support
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#132 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:16 pm

Stratton23 wrote:wxman57 I disagree, the ICON has support


Yeah, as it did last week for today's storm. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#133 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:53 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:wxman57 I disagree, the ICON has support


Yeah, as it did last week for today's storm. I'll believe it when I see it.


It got the area right just not the intensity. I haven’t seen but part of the 12z EC run so far. Looked like ICON and EC 00z merges energy from the coastal low and wave moving in spinning in the Bay of Campeche before coming back up. Still not sure if they aren’t handling multiple areas right or if it’s a signal.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#134 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:10 pm

18z HRRR looks to have a TS stalling just to the SW of galveston in 48 hours
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#135 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:38 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:wxman57 I disagree, the ICON has support


Yeah, as it did last week for today's storm. I'll believe it when I see it.


Apparently this has UKMET support too, and that's been the most conservative model this season
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#136 Postby mantis83 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:45 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:wxman57 I disagree, the ICON has support


Yeah, as it did last week for today's storm. I'll believe it when I see it.

agreed. can't trust the icon.....
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#137 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:10 pm

I think anything is possible with that low pressure in the Gulf of Mexico.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#138 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:44 pm

What in the blue blazes is the 00z NAM 3k doing?
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#139 Postby LAF92 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:52 pm

Stratton23 wrote:What in the blue blazes is the 00z NAM 3k doing?

Just your everyday strong TS/borderline Cat 1 crawling along the upper tx coast
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in NW Gulf of Mexico (0/0)

#140 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:22 pm

mantis83 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:wxman57 I disagree, the ICON has support


Yeah, as it did last week for today's storm. I'll believe it when I see it.

agreed. can't trust the icon.....


I think if you look at it vis a vis 2024 NW Gulf it’s maybe been the best model. It stuck with Texas coastal low pressure and primarily offshore rains with some inches here and there. Intensity never got to much but the low has been there for a few days and it’s got it buried in the BoC merging with that wave energy in 5 days via 18z. I can’t find the 00z yet but see what it does. Beryl goes without saying.
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