ATL: HELENE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3281 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:28 pm

NOAA Recon continues to circle inside the eye of Helene, hope everything is ok with the plane.

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3282 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:28 pm

I want to get this saved. Helene is pushing back the front which had just cleared my area. Outflow is incredibly vigorous.

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source: https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=c ... =undefined
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3283 Postby Janie2006 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:28 pm

Steve wrote:
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Bocadude85 wrote:

Yes it is, hopefully wobbles back or places like Cedar Key are going to be in even more trouble then they already are.


There's no better place than any other. This storm is just catastrophic, no matter who ends up the loser.


For sure. It’s been breezy all day in New Orleans out the N most of the day 20ish which based on the trough and where we are in relation is clearly surface flow.


Same here in Mobtown (Mobile). Cloudy, breezy, actually very comfortable behind that weak front today.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3284 Postby Michele B » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:29 pm

Teban54 wrote:
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100% you, I and NDG were on it and maybe a few others. I've lived here since 1976. You kinda learn how these things behave minus the meteorology degree. Credit to Bay News 9 and Spectrum News they've been all over Perry area or Taylor county. Klystron is the real deal!


Maybe a few others. Give it up again for the Icon once again for a Gulf storm in 2024. It’s probably a Top 3 or 4 global these days - at least for the Gulf.

To be fair, ICON did have its flaws with Helene by sticking to the eastern solutions near Tampa longer than other global models. (Of course this doesn't take away things that it did well.)


I thought the ICON said the Big Bend area? I still like it best, even if it was off by about 50 miles.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3286 Postby Steve » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:30 pm

tolakram wrote:I want to get this saved. Helene is pushing back the front which had just cleared my area. Outflow is incredibly vigorous.

https://i.imgur.com/guYyPU0.gif

source: https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=c ... =undefined


Look at that channel. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this exact setup. Just due north moisture channel looking like a Pineapple Express.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3287 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:30 pm

St.Pete is now gusting over hurricane force. Those are some nasty bands moving in.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3288 Postby sicktght311 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:30 pm

tolakram wrote:I want to get this saved. Helene is pushing back the front which had just cleared my area. Outflow is incredibly vigorous.

https://i.imgur.com/guYyPU0.gif

source: https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=c ... =undefined


The pure energy coming out of this system is wild
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3289 Postby TampaWxLurker » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:31 pm

76 mph gust in St. Pete.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3290 Postby Tekken_Guy » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:31 pm

Buck wrote:
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Buck wrote:Kinda nervous here, just northwest of Atlanta. A lot of old, large trees near my house and near my parents’ house. We are getting Opal vibes… we lost a ton of trees then.



Hey Buck. Good luck up there.


Thanks, brother!

Prayers for all those in the path.


If it makes the northeast turn that some of the models are showing then Atlanta could dodge a bullet, but eastern GA could get much more hammered. If it follows the NHC though that’s much worse for ATL.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3291 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:31 pm

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3292 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:32 pm

FYI, here are all past storms named Helene. The name has quite a strong track record with the majority of uses being hurricanes. Interestingly enough, all previous Helenes first became a TC in the MDR. Helene 2024 is the first (and almost certainly last) time the name was used for a home-grown.

The strongest Helene in the past was the 1988 one, which was a classic recurving Cabo Verde hurricane that peaked at 125 kts in the MDR. We'll see whether Helene 2024 takes over that.

Hurricane Helene (1958) – a powerful storm that grazed Cape Hatteras causing $11 million in damage.
Hurricane Helene (1988) – Category 4 hurricane that stayed in the open ocean
Tropical Storm Helene (2000) – entered the Caribbean Sea, made landfall at Fort Walton Beach, Florida, exited at the North Carolina coast and regained tropical storm strength
Hurricane Helene (2006) – Category 3 hurricane that stayed in the open ocean, never threatening land
Tropical Storm Helene (2012) – tropical storm that affected Trinidad and Tobago and Mexico
Hurricane Helene (2018) – Category 2 hurricane that formed between Cape Verde and West Africa
Hurricane Helene (2024) – currently active
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3293 Postby caneman » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:32 pm

Michele B wrote:
Teban54 wrote:
Steve wrote:
Maybe a few others. Give it up again for the Icon once again for a Gulf storm in 2024. It’s probably a Top 3 or 4 global these days - at least for the Gulf.

To be fair, ICON did have its flaws with Helene by sticking to the eastern solutions near Tampa longer than other global models. (Of course this doesn't take away things that it did well.)


I thought the ICON said the Big Bend area? I still like it best, even if it was off by about 50 miles.


It's hitting the big bend area. It wasn't at 1st it was windshield wiper all over Gulf coast but did lock down for 48 hours
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3294 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:33 pm

This isn't looking like it will pass east of Atlanta. We will be on the dirty side of the storm. I think I have now cleared 4 inches here at my house and the worst is yet to come
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3295 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:33 pm



Make that 76 mph winds gusting in Downtown St Pete

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3296 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:33 pm

I wonder what the chances are that Helene overtakes Beryl in achieving a lower minimum central pressure but doesn't top Beryl's 165 mph sustained winds
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3297 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:34 pm

What is going on with recon. They are circling around the center over and over. The dropsonde had 944 pressure with 22mph winds
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3298 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:34 pm

tolakram wrote:I want to get this saved. Helene is pushing back the front which had just cleared my area. Outflow is incredibly vigorous.

https://i.imgur.com/guYyPU0.gif

source: https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=c ... =undefined

Curse that outflow lol. Gonna be cloudy for an entire week up in the northeast from it.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3299 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:34 pm

TampaWxLurker wrote:76 mph gust in St. Pete.


The GFS and Euro were right, they were calling for a more east track and 70-80mph wind gusts across Tampa Bay.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#3300 Postby GTStorm » Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:34 pm

Tekken_Guy wrote:
Buck wrote:
Steve wrote:

Hey Buck. Good luck up there.


Thanks, brother!

Prayers for all those in the path.


If it makes the northeast turn that some of the models are showing then Atlanta could dodge a bullet, but eastern GA could get much more hammered. If it follows the NHC though that’s much worse for ATL.


Which models are showing a NE turn?
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