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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1261 Postby StormPyrate » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:26 pm

looks like all the hurricane models all came in south of Tampa Bay, not the globals
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1262 Postby caneseddy » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:28 pm

Euro right into Tampa Bay
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1263 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:29 pm

12z HAFS-A Sarasota
12z HAFS-B Bradenton
12z HWRF Bradenton
12z HMON Up bay
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1264 Postby kevin » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:29 pm

I only have the 6 hour intervals, but 12z Euro is right into Tampa Bay. It also correctly shows the weakening in the last few hours and shows stabilization or a tiny bit of strengthening up to landfall (956 to 954 mb).

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1265 Postby StormPyrate » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:29 pm

caneseddy wrote:Euro right into Tampa Bay

So Euro and Icon are the most North tracks?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1266 Postby ronjon » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:39 pm

So will it be GFS track into Sarasota or EURO/ICON into Tampa Bay? Still unresolved with less than 12 hours to go before landfall.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1267 Postby kevin » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:58 pm

Milton at 18z = 26.3N, 84.0W

Where should Milton be at 18z according to all the models (sorted north to south).

12z CMC = 26.7N, 84.6W -> Bradenton
12z Euro = 26.5N, 84.1W -> into TB
12z ICON = 26.5N, 84.1W -> into TB
12z HMON = 26.4N, 84.1W -> into TB
12z HWRF = 26.2N, 84.0W -> Bradenton
12z HAFS-A = 26.2N, 84.2W -> Sarasota
12z GFS = 26.2N, 84.3W -> Bradenton
12z HAFS-B = 26.1N, 84.2W -> Bradenton
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1268 Postby NDG » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:00 pm

Close up look of 12z Euro run. Landfall Ana Maria, upper Longboat Key into parts of Tampa Bay up to Tampa.
Much better agreement now with timing of landfall when yesterday it showed landfall at 7 AM tomorrow morning.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1269 Postby Hurrilurker » Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:32 pm

NDG wrote:Close up look of 12z Euro run. Landfall Ana Maria, upper Longboat Key into parts of Tampa Bay up to Tampa.
Much better agreement now with timing of landfall when yesterday it showed landfall at 7 AM tomorrow morning.

https://i.imgur.com/jBtlyo5.gif

Why is it doing that crazy lurch to the north as it landfalls? Is that friction from land interaction?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1270 Postby kevin » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:22 pm

The same, but now with the 21z position. It isn't 21z yet, but Milton was already at 26.8W, 83.6W at 19:50z. So it looks like ICON/HMON/Euro are the most accurate models and they all take it into TB.

12z CMC = 26.9N, 84.0W (interpolated) -> Bradenton
12z ICON = 26.9N, 83.6W -> into TB
12z HMON = 26.9N, 83.6W -> into TB
12z Euro = 26.8N, 83.7W (interpolated) -> into TB
12z HWRF = 26.7N, 83.6W -> Bradenton
12z HAFS-B = 26.7N, 83.5W -> Bradenton
12z HAFS-A = 26.6N, 83.6W -> Sarasota
12z GFS = 26.6N, 83.7W (interpolated) -> Bradenton
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1271 Postby onadraw » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:39 pm

Looks like it's coming ashore sooner than anyone thought. Is this still going to turn East? Worried up north.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1272 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:44 pm

18zs
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1273 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:51 pm

Final icon before landfall 18z, up the bay, out just north of Cape Canaveral

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1274 Postby kevin » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:54 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Final icon before landfall 18z, up the bay, out just north of Cape Canaveral

https://i.imgur.com/HYgO2Go.gif


It also already shows landfall in 3 hours.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1275 Postby BobHarlem » Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:47 pm

18z GFS
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1276 Postby Abdullah » Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:48 pm

Is landfall when the eye touches the coastline or when the center of the eye reaches it?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1277 Postby Nimbus » Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:48 pm

chris_fit wrote:Indeed GFS goes S - but wow - what kind of wobbling is this? Looks like a track my 5 year old created with some crayons!



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Looks like the actual track to me.
It was the long EWRC.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1278 Postby WaveBreaking » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:04 pm

Abdullah wrote:Is landfall when the eye touches the coastline or when the center of the eye reaches it?


When the center passes over.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1279 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:43 pm

The question for the model followers is which model(s) did the best with the landfall that had pressure of 954 mbs and also the track?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Models

#1280 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:07 pm

cycloneye wrote:The question for the model followers is which model(s) did the best with the landfall that had pressure of 954 mbs and also the track?


NHC.
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