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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#41 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:52 pm

12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#42 Postby boca » Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:57 pm

SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


94L will curve north way before Florida and I haven’t come across any storms that hit Florida from the east in October.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#43 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:29 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Interesting 12z icon run with 94L Not sure I recall a system that moved SW near/over Hispaniola to get to Jamaica.
https://i.imgur.com/aqq2mHX.gif


While fairly rare, there have been a select handful of systems that went on a prolonged SW path over the Caribbean like that. Irma, Ike, and Hurricane 4 of 1888 come to mind.

Safe to say that this year hasn't exactly been a year that has produced cyclones traveling in a "normal" path (cough cough, Milton), so while rare, I wouldn't necessarily discount the possibility of a storm taking that kind of path just yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#44 Postby toad strangler » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:32 pm

boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


94L will curve north way before Florida and I haven’t come across any storms that hit Florida from the east in October.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#45 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:54 pm

I don't think people should be confidently saying something can't/won't happen because of "climatology" in 2024.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#46 Postby emeraldislenc » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:57 pm

I agree never say never I remember some people said a storm would not move east in the bay of Campeche last week well we know what happened I think we need to remind ourselves this year is different!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#47 Postby Teban54 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:43 pm

toad strangler wrote:
boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


94L will curve north way before Florida and I haven’t come across any storms that hit Florida from the east in October.


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Also, Nicole from just 2 years ago hit SFL from the east in November.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#48 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:04 pm

SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


You can safely throw climatology in the bin this year. I'm treating this like a mid-September tropical cyclone.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#49 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:40 pm

HAFS-A/B make this system into a tropical storm in about five days. After its impressive validation during Milton, I will believe it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#50 Postby stormchazer » Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:24 pm

SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


Not sure you should be held by climatology or “that does not happen in October. A hurricane follows the flow and path of least resistance. If that means the storm ducks southwest then that’s where it will go.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#51 Postby stormchazer » Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:25 pm

SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


Not sure you should be held hostage by climatology or “that does not happen in October”. A hurricane follows the flow and path of least resistance. If that means the storm ducks southwest then that’s where it will go.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#52 Postby SFLcane » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:40 pm

stormchazer wrote:
SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


Not sure you should be held hostage by climatology or “that does not happen in October”. A hurricane follows the flow and path of least resistance. If that means the storm ducks southwest then that’s where it will go.



Pretty silly to see this sorta track in mid October from the east but this year has been anything but normal. I can see impacts for PR-DR if it gets caught under some ridging but in terms of the conus it’s more then likely to catch a ride in the westerlies sooner rather then later.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#53 Postby stormchazer » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:49 pm

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stormchazer wrote:
SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


Not sure you should be held hostage by climatology or “that does not happen in October”. A hurricane follows the flow and path of least resistance. If that means the storm ducks southwest then that’s where it will go.



Pretty silly to see this sorta track in mid October from the east but this year has been anything but normal. I can see impacts for PR-DR if it gets caught under some ridging but in terms of the conus it’s more then likely to catch a ride in the westerlies sooner rather then later.


Seemed “silly” for a hurricane to hit the west coast off Florida from the BOC yet….. Models at this point are a bit questionable this far out anyway but let’s see if it verifies.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#54 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:14 pm

In looking at model runs from another weather page, I am unsure what the latest run is, I get confused with zulu time. Is the latest 00z 06z 12z or 18z? Thanks.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#55 Postby Soluna16 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:17 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:In looking at model runs from another weather page, I am unsure what the latest run is, I get confused with zulu time. Is the latest 00z 06z 12z or 18z? Thanks.


Latest is 18z
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#56 Postby floridasun » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:26 pm

i got feeling that models by wed will have going near se Bahama but than going to north and NE after that we see in month of oct most time
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#57 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:38 pm

Soluna16 wrote:
wzrgirl1 wrote:In looking at model runs from another weather page, I am unsure what the latest run is, I get confused with zulu time. Is the latest 00z 06z 12z or 18z? Thanks.


Latest is 18z


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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#58 Postby blp » Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:26 pm

The 12z runs where showing a cutoff low sending this NE but these types of lows are typically hard for the models to resolve. Looks like the 18z Euro is back to High taking more of an influence.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#59 Postby blp » Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:38 pm

00z Icon much further west before trough picks it up.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#60 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:03 am

boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:12z Ecmwf is north that Wsw dive is nonsense in October lol let alone anytime of the year


94L will curve north way before Florida and I haven’t come across any storms that hit Florida from the east in October.

Nothing is normal in 2024... Well we just had a C5 go from west to east :ggreen:
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