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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#581 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:49 pm

12z Euro says its time to break out those winter coats!
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#582 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:01 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Cell near Clifton is currently the one to watch for dfw

Was just looking at that one on radar. Headed our way.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#583 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:04 pm

PDS warning with likely strong tornado near Nowata, OK
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#584 Postby snownado » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:05 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:I'm guessing the most will be along the line, are they expecting discrete cells as the catalyst for ef2 and above?

Something is not adding up.

I fear because it's November people are not paying attention.

The storms that will have the highest chance to produce tornadoes will be those that congeal in the confluence bands ahead of the main line. Right now, these are ragged clusters of tiny cells streaming northward. The concern is that some of these will aggregate into cells that would be able to capitalize on the environment. Watch for any that do this, and start to bend their track to the right of the mean motion. A good, but rather extreme, example of this congealing set up would be the garland ef4 on 12/26/15, same with 4/3/12 when that Arlington ef2 sent those tractor trailers flying on video. Outcomes like that might not occur, but that’s what to watch for.

Additionally, if the line out west either breaks up enough to allow for semi-discrete supercells, or solidifies into a mature mcs, tornadoes could occur there. I think the former is more possible, since that’s basically what we’re currently seeing in Oklahoma, but I guess we’ll see. 12/13/22* is probably a good analog for this as well. A lot of similar setups in the past have amounted to nothing, but a couple have been notable.

* corrected analog


It's getting pretty randy just SW of DFW now...
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#585 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:13 pm

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Mesoscale Discussion 2204
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0107 PM CST Mon Nov 04 2024

Areas affected...Northern Texas

Concerning...Tornado Watch 704...

Valid 041907Z - 042030Z

The severe weather threat for Tornado Watch 704 continues.

SUMMARY...A corridor of higher tornado potential may be developing
across northern Texas, including the Dallas/Fort-Worth metro area,
based on storm and environmental trends.

DISCUSSION...Large-scale ascent associated with the primary upper
low across eastern NM/western TX is beginning to overspread central
TX as evident by an increase in cellular convection across the warm
sector over the past 1-2 hours. More recently, a few cells have show
signs of robust intensification within a corridor of higher MLCAPE
where temperatures have climbed into the low 80s with low 70s
dewpoints. The FWD VWP is sampling 0-1 km SRH values around 150
m2/s2, which, in conjunction with MLCAPE values upwards of 2000
J/kg, is supporting STP values between 1-2 across the region. A
couple of robust supercells will likely emerge over the next 1-2
hours with an increasing large hail and tornado threat (including
the potential for a strong tornado) prior to the passage of a
outflow-dominant squall line from the west.

..Moore.. 11/04/2024

...Please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

ATTN...WFO...SHV...FWD...OUN...
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#586 Postby Brent » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:19 pm

94 mph wind gust north of here

And it's snowing in the Panhandle :cold:
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#587 Postby snownado » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:38 pm

bubba hotep wrote:https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/mcd2204.png

Mesoscale Discussion 2204
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0107 PM CST Mon Nov 04 2024

Areas affected...Northern Texas

Concerning...Tornado Watch 704...

Valid 041907Z - 042030Z

The severe weather threat for Tornado Watch 704 continues.

SUMMARY...A corridor of higher tornado potential may be developing
across northern Texas, including the Dallas/Fort-Worth metro area,
based on storm and environmental trends.

DISCUSSION...Large-scale ascent associated with the primary upper
low across eastern NM/western TX is beginning to overspread central
TX as evident by an increase in cellular convection across the warm
sector over the past 1-2 hours. More recently, a few cells have show
signs of robust intensification within a corridor of higher MLCAPE
where temperatures have climbed into the low 80s with low 70s
dewpoints. The FWD VWP is sampling 0-1 km SRH values around 150
m2/s2, which, in conjunction with MLCAPE values upwards of 2000
J/kg, is supporting STP values between 1-2 across the region. A
couple of robust supercells will likely emerge over the next 1-2
hours with an increasing large hail and tornado threat (including
the potential for a strong tornado) prior to the passage of a
outflow-dominant squall line from the west.

..Moore.. 11/04/2024

...Please see http://www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

ATTN...WFO...SHV...FWD...OUN...


Might have spoke too soon.

Things are looking more messy on the latest radar frames, and the active warnings have ended.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#588 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:44 pm

Looks like the outflow passed through Ponder so guess our severe chances have diminished?

My wife was trying to park back in the garage and can't, so my question about are we out of the woods once that lines passes was serious if anyone knows.

I hope everyone stays safe out there today.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#589 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:49 pm

Very small but notable couplet south of Alvarado, we’ll see if it persists
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#590 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:20 pm

Looks like an inflow notch may be trying to show up near cedar hill. Need to watch that
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#591 Postby Ntxw » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:45 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:Looks like the outflow passed through Ponder so guess our severe chances have diminished?

My wife was trying to park back in the garage and can't, so my question about are we out of the woods once that lines passes was serious if anyone knows.

I hope everyone stays safe out there today.


East and Northeast parts of the metroplex is where it's still juicy. Behind the outflow there is diminished risk.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#592 Postby snownado » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:53 pm

Quiet as its kept, might have a flash flood episode setting up for parts of DFW too...
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#593 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:57 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Looks like an inflow notch may be trying to show up near cedar hill. Need to watch that


They finally svr warned that cell.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#594 Postby snownado » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:58 pm

Tornado Watch has been dropped for the western half of DFW...
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#595 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:59 pm

Nevermind on the tornado watch.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#596 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:00 pm

So far, only .20 IMBY during this "rainy" period. I guess better than the complete dryness, not not living up to the hype.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#597 Postby snownado » Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:03 pm

snownado wrote:Quiet as its kept, might have a flash flood episode setting up for parts of DFW too...


Flood Advisory in effect for Dallas County until 6pm...
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#598 Postby snownado » Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:06 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:So far, only .20 IMBY during this "rainy" period. I guess better than the complete dryness, not not living up to the hype.


That's just really bad luck...
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#599 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:11 pm

Here in DT FTW it was just a very light shower that passed through. At a 100% coverage of the forecast area for precipitation, the amounts vary from a Trace to over an inch. If you were lucky enough to be under a cell you got a pretty good soaker, but those heavier cells are limited across the forecast are, I would estimate about 50% saw less than .25" total over the last 4 days.
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Re: Texas Fall 2024

#600 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:39 pm

snownado wrote:Quiet as its kept, might have a flash flood episode setting up for parts of DFW too...


 https://x.com/Fox4Weather/status/1853552180222955923

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