ATL: SARA - Models
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
i think the 12z euro/cmc may be more realistic based on climatology, not good for central america, but those models avoid a florida landfall....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
18z GFS is yet another consecutive run where 99L misses Central America by a hair.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
aspen wrote:18z GFS is yet another consecutive run where 99L misses Central America by a hair.
Yep and because of that, it's allowing 99L/Sara to bomb out..down to 928 mb so far at 120 hrs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
How low can you go?


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
The consistency on the GFS through 154 hours is unreal. GFS is locked in on the same solution.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Shooting the Yucatan Channel into the Gulf at 946 mb..starting the turn towards the Florida Peninsula at 174 hrs...949 mb..looks like Big Bend area is target this run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
18z GFS Sim-satellite:


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Jxdama wrote:i think the 12z euro/cmc may be more realistic based on climatology, not good for central america, but those models avoid a florida landfall....
That is not correct. 12Z Euro landfalls does make Florida landfall at 204 hr's between Naples and Cape Sable as a 980 mb hurricane.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Is the trough weaker in this run? I can’t see the loop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Hey Sara,, watcha doin'? There's nothing left to wreck in Cedar Key/Perry/Suwannee
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
AutoPenalti wrote:Is the trough weaker in this run? I can’t see the loop.
I think it’s slower this run compared to previous runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
AutoPenalti wrote:Is the trough weaker in this run? I can’t see the loop.
Hard to tell. The storm reaches the W Cuba tip at the same forecast time. Best I can tell is that the trough might be a tad slower dropping south/east. The only other thing which was more obvious was higher mid level heights east of N. Fla then the prior 12Z run. Looks to be the primary cause for a more south to north motion than the last two model runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Been following and tracking storms since I was a kid, by no mean's am I a pro. That said I don't see Sara getting that far north, it will all come down to the strength and speed of the front. For the record I wish it would just die, don't wish this storm on anyone let alone near me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Have a hard time believing a 970 mb cane into Cedar Key during 3rd week of November per 18z GFS. Seems S FL to the Keys would be more likely destination given the time of year.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Assuming that 18Z runs for the regional models (and that initialization is likely to be off), what time will they typically drop?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Holy

The cross section NW-SE has 850mb winds in excess of 145kts, so surface winds greater than 130kts:


The cross section NW-SE has 850mb winds in excess of 145kts, so surface winds greater than 130kts:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models
Unfortunately it seems like no hurricane model runs this cycle for some reason. Darn.
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