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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1381 Postby orangeblood » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:07 am

516 dm into Northern Alabama on the 10th :lol: :lol: with another PV reload a few days later. This upcoming January pattern is LOADED with potential, unlike we’ve seen in years for Januarys specifically!

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1382 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:09 am

There are so many systems to watch next week. Some areas may see several snow opportunities. Don't be surprised either within the cold air mass you get light events coming from the north/northwest as well that isn't captured.

Nevertheless, it's going to start with this late weekend storm up in Oklahoma, watch for southerly trends.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1383 Postby orangeblood » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:12 am

Ntxw wrote:There are so many systems to watch next week. Some areas may see several snow opportunities. Don't be surprised either within the cold air mass you get light events coming from the north/northwest as well that isn't captured.

Nevertheless, it's going to start with this late weekend storm up in Oklahoma, watch for southerly trends.


Yep, how many times over the years have we seen that happen? It’s usually the front end of these arctic outbreaks that catch everyone off guard. Mainly due to our models still having major flaws handling these shallow dense cold air masses. doesn’t take much to cause issues
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1384 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:12 am

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:There are so many systems to watch next week. Some areas may see several snow opportunities. Don't be surprised either within the cold air mass you get light events coming from the north/northwest as well that isn't captured.

Nevertheless, it's going to start with this late weekend storm up in Oklahoma, watch for southerly trends.


Yep, how many times over the years have we seen that happen? It’s usually the front end of these arctic outbreaks that catch everyone off guard, doesn’t take much to cause issues


CFSv2. We have not seen a trough pattern like this since 2009-2010, it's going to extend through January...could be a snowy month.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1385 Postby orangeblood » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:20 am

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:There are so many systems to watch next week. Some areas may see several snow opportunities. Don't be surprised either within the cold air mass you get light events coming from the north/northwest as well that isn't captured.

Nevertheless, it's going to start with this late weekend storm up in Oklahoma, watch for southerly trends.


Yep, how many times over the years have we seen that happen? It’s usually the front end of these arctic outbreaks that catch everyone off guard, doesn’t take much to cause issues


CFSv2. We have not seen a trough pattern like this since 2009-2010, it's going to extend through January...could be a snowy month.


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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1386 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:29 am

MJO is in P7, will traverse 8-1-2 in the heart of winter and not too high an amplitude as to overwhelm the pattern. That's quite favorable over the heart of winter climo wise. This is why years like Jan/Feb 1985 were so cold and snowy. The ducks aligned.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1387 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:43 am

I’m with Ntxw about watching these SW trends. I mean look how much the storm systems trended this past week with our tornado outbreak. Maybe that’s a sign.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1388 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:50 am

Cpv17 wrote:I’m with Ntxw about watching these SW trends. I mean look how much the storm systems trended this past week with our tornado outbreak. Maybe that’s a sign.


There is good reason they have been trending south, because the AO block is setting up. It has/will slow up the pattern.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1389 Postby cstrunk » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:17 am

I love the enthusiasm here but I'm not going to get too excited for any winter precip until we get under 5 days... or even 3 days. 7-14+ days is too far.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1390 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:28 am

cstrunk wrote:I love the enthusiasm here but I'm not going to get too excited for any winter precip until we get under 5 days... or even 3 days. 7-14+ days is too far.

It's not about being excited about a particular event. It's the overall pattern that is incredible. The cold and storminess will be prolonged so everyone will have multiple chances. And the first storm comes this weekend so getting within range to begin to look at some specifics on that one.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1391 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:39 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:
cstrunk wrote:I love the enthusiasm here but I'm not going to get too excited for any winter precip until we get under 5 days... or even 3 days. 7-14+ days is too far.

It's not about being excited about a particular event. It's the overall pattern that is incredible. The cold and storminess will be prolonged so everyone will have multiple chances. And the first storm comes this weekend so getting within range to begin to look at some specifics on that one.


Right we all know a week out the models aren't gonna be right about the snow it's more the larger picture and why I keep saying look at the ensembles. It's gonna be vague for awhile still but the pattern is definitely loaded

I mean when do we see ensembles with snow into the Gulf. Not even every winter
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1392 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:45 am

Brent wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:
cstrunk wrote:I love the enthusiasm here but I'm not going to get too excited for any winter precip until we get under 5 days... or even 3 days. 7-14+ days is too far.

It's not about being excited about a particular event. It's the overall pattern that is incredible. The cold and storminess will be prolonged so everyone will have multiple chances. And the first storm comes this weekend so getting within range to begin to look at some specifics on that one.


Right we all know a week out the models aren't gonna be right about the snow it's more the larger picture and why I keep saying look at the ensembles. It's gonna be vague for awhile still but the pattern is definitely loaded

I mean when do we see ensembles with snow into the Gulf. Not even every winter


Yes we do, but it's always two weeks out along with the Cat 5.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1393 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:46 am

Brent wrote:
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cstrunk wrote:I love the enthusiasm here but I'm not going to get too excited for any winter precip until we get under 5 days... or even 3 days. 7-14+ days is too far.

It's not about being excited about a particular event. It's the overall pattern that is incredible. The cold and storminess will be prolonged so everyone will have multiple chances. And the first storm comes this weekend so getting within range to begin to look at some specifics on that one.


Right we all know a week out the models aren't gonna be right about the snow it's more the larger picture and why I keep saying look at the ensembles. It's gonna be vague for awhile still but the pattern is definitely loaded

I mean when do we see ensembles with snow into the Gulf. Not even every winter


It would be extremely random bad luck to the nth degree if you don't get anything out of the next 3 weeks, I doubt it though. You don't get many cold loading patterns with ample energy post cold often, many years don't.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1394 Postby cstrunk » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:50 am

Fair enough - I should have added a caveat about winter precip *at my location*. It may snow and it may also snow in Houston and not at my house. Y'all are right about one thing though, get the cold air in first and worry about precip 2nd. That's why I'm not going to get too excited until within 3-5 days. Cold air without snow/ice doesn't do anything for me except make me shiver! :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1395 Postby Brandon8181 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:06 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:Globals will struggle with resolving the PNA ridge out west vs the Arctic trough to our NE. The cold will come in faster initially than modeled and the cold not moderate near as quickly as models indicate between waves. Can't ride the roller coaster of individual model runs. Follow trends and trust your knowledge of past events.


Exactly.... and the trend is certainly colder with some kind of winter related weather generally in the south.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1396 Postby gboudx » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:11 am

cstrunk wrote:I love the enthusiasm here but I'm not going to get too excited for any winter precip until we get under 5 days... or even 3 days. 7-14+ days is too far.


I rely on our weather rock. If I look outside and see snow on it, then I’m confident it’ll snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1397 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:22 am

My heart is jumping for joy. Unlike most of you, I’ll just take cold and snow is icing on top. F anything above 75 degrees and f anything above 60 in Winter.

I like seasons.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1398 Postby Portastorm » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:47 am

Hey guys, what's up? Anything going on? :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1399 Postby 3090 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:49 am

Portastorm wrote:Hey guys, what's up? Anything going on? :wink:

Nah…no tropical systems to worry about, just a bit of a buzz abound, for wintry precip. :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1400 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:52 am

Portastorm wrote:Hey guys, what's up? Anything going on? :wink:

Welcome back to the forum Porta ,we missed you around here. Hope you enjoy your upper 80s today down in Austin. Could be a while before we get that high again. Hopefully.
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