Which name list will retire all it's original names first?

[HurricaneRyan]

Helene has indeed become a bad and devastating storm. Knowing now that Debby also caused more damage in Canada than the US, it will be interesting to see if it gets retired as well.

90L in the Atlantic will likely become Kirk, which means the system in the Western Caribbean will become Leslie. If Leslie becomes a bad storm, then we'll need a new L name.

We could potentially have up to four names retired next year, all original.

[CrazyC83]

Helene has indeed become a bad and devastating storm. Knowing now that Debby also caused more damage in Canada than the US, it will be interesting to see if it gets retired as well.

90L in the Atlantic will likely become Kirk, which means the system in the Western Caribbean will become Leslie. If Leslie becomes a bad storm, then we'll need a new L name.

We could potentially have up to four names retired next year, all original.

Not to mention what may lurk in the late season.

[Teban54]

July 2024 update. Beryl is assumed to be retired.

(Original - Retired - Retired twice - Retired 3 times - Never been used)

List 1 (next 2027) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 2 (next 2028) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 3 (next 2029) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 4 (2024/2030) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 5 (next 2025) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 6 (next 2026) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

Auxiliary List - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

Greek Alphabet (legacy) - α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ, ι



My comments:
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While we didn't retire the last original I name (but got really close), we still got rid of another original name in Helene. This means List 4 is doing some serious catch-up in the last two iterations. It will now have at least 8 original names retired after this season, which is near average among all lists (9.2); whereas before 2018, it only had 4 names retired at all and was well behind other lists.

If the 30/80 behind Kirk becomes Leslie, there's a chance that it may become a strong MDR hurricane and track west enough to affect the Lesser Antilles, meaning a non-zero chance at retirement of another (nicely slotted) original name.

Afterwards, if there's more Caribbean mischief, 2024 still has a chance to retire another original name from Nadine, Oscar, Patty and Rafael, as long as it avoids Milton (which may possibly be used for the Carribean/Gulf AOI) and Sara.

[CrazyC83]

Now updated to October 2024. Helene and Milton are now assumed to be retired.

(Original - Retired - Retired twice - Retired 3 times - Never been used)

List 1 (next 2027) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 2 (next 2028) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 3 (next 2029) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 4 (2024/2030) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 5 (next 2025) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

List 6 (next 2026) - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

Auxiliary List - A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T, V, W

Greek Alphabet (legacy) - α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ, ι



Isaac truly is the survivor, while all the other "I" names are third or fourth generation right now. Additionally, there are no third generation names on this list, although if Milton is the Gulf storm and can rapidly intensify (edit: did it ever!!!!), that is the only way that changes. Unless we get all the way to Sara, everything left is original.

List 5 next year is a mixed bag - remaining originals include Barry, Chantal, Erin, Gabrielle, Jerry and Karen in the front half of the list. After that, it's largely replacements except for Pablo until very late (largely thanks to 1995).

[HurricaneRyan]

Just out of curiosity, with some inspiration from the Chinese zodiac symbols, I looked at which names got retired during the 12 year cycles.

Rat: Donna, Agnes, Cesar, Fran, Hortense, Gustav, Ike, Paloma, Laura, Eta, Iota
Bull: Carla, Hattie, Elena, Gloria, Ida
Tiger: Carmen, Fifi, Georges, Mitch, Igor, Tomas, Ian
Rabbit: Flora, Eloise, Floyd, Lenny, Irene
Dragon: Cleo, Dora, Hilda, Gilbert, Joan, Keith, Sandy
Snake: Betsy, Anita, Hugo, Allison, Iris, Michelle, Ingrid
Horse: Carol, Edna, Hazel, Inez, Greta, Diana, Klaus, Isidore, Lili
Ram: Connie, Diane, Ione, Janet, Beulah, David, Frederic, Bob, Isabel, Erika, Joaquin
Monkey: Allen, Andrew, Charley, Frances, Ivan, Jeanne, Matthew, Otto
Rooster: Audrey, Camille, Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Stan, Wilma, Harvey, Irma, Maria, Nate
Dog: Celia, Florence, Michael
Pig: Alicia, Luis, Marilyn, Opal, Roxanne, Dean, Felix, Noel, Dorian

[AJC3]

Updated status of the original lists as of the end of the 2024 season. For retired names where you see more than one retired name starting with the same letter, the original retirees are boldfaced before the "/", with replacement names that have also been retired to the right.

For the bottom section, I also sorted the number of original retirees by letter, in the order of the lists that they were on.

Observations from the lists...

(1) There are no original "F" storms left.
(2) A "V" storm has yet to be retired.
(3) Surprisingly, only one original "E" storm has been retired, meaning the second (and only other) "E" storm to be retired was its replacement.
(4) An "I" storm has been retired from list 2 three times, the only letter/list having this distinction.
(5) The original "I" storm has been retired from 5 of 6 lists, and at least one replacement "I" storm has been retired in all 5 of those lists.
(6) If you include replacements, the numbers look like this: List 1 (11); List 2 (14); List 3 (12); List 4 (9); List 5 (14); List 6 (12)

Complete list of original names left from 1979 onward:

List 1 (14): Ana, Claudette, Henri, Kate, Larry, Mindy, Nicholas, Odette, Peter, Rose, Sam, Teresa, Victor, Wanda
Retired (7): Bob, David, Elena/Erika, Frederic/Fabian, Gloria, Isabel/Ida, Juan/Joaquin

List 2 (12): Bonnie, Danielle, Earl, Hermine, Karl, Lisa, Nicole, Paula, Richard, Shary, Virginie, Walter
Retired (9): Allen/Andrew, Charley, Frances/Fiona, Georges, Ivan/Igor/Ian, Jeanne, Mitch/Matthew, Otto, Tomas

List 3 (10): Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Emily, Gert, Jose, Ophelia, Philippe, Tammy, Vince
Retired (11): Dennis, Floyd, Harvey, Irene/Irma, Katrina, Lenny, Maria, Nate, Rita, Stan, Wilma

List 4 (13): Alberto, Chris, Debby, Ernesto, Isaac, Leslie, Nadine, Oscar, Patty, Rafael, Tony, Valerie, William
Retired (8): Beryl, Florence, Gilbert, Helene, Joan, Keith, Michael/Milton, Sandy

List 5 (11): Barry, Chantal, Erin, Gabrielle, Jerry, Karen, Pablo, Sebastien, Tanya, Van, Wendy
Retired (10): Alicia/Allison, Dean/Dorian, Felix, Hugo, Iris/Ingrid, Luis, Marilyn/Michelle, Noel, Opal, Roxanne

List 6 (11): Arthur, Bertha, Edouard, Josephine, Marco, Nana, Omar, Rene, Teddy, Vicky, Wilfred
Retired (10): Cesar, Diana, Fran, Gustav, Hortense, Isidore/Ike, Klaus, Lili/Laura, Paloma, Sally

Retired Left
A (2) Allen, Alicia (4) Ana, Arlene, Alberto, Arthur
B (2) Bob, Beryl (4) Bonnie, Bret, Barry, Bertha
C (2) Charley, Cesar (4) Claudette, Cindy, Chris, Chantal
D (4) David, Dennis, Dean, Diana (2) Danielle, Debby
E (1) Elena (5) Earl, Emily, Ernesto, Erin, Edouard
F (6) Frederic, Frances, Floyd, Florence, Felix, Fran (0)
G (4) Gloria, Georges, Gilbert, Gustav (2) Gert, Gabrielle
H (4) Harvey, Helene, Hugo, Hortense (2) Henri, Hermine
I (5) Isabel, Ivan, Irene, Iris, Isidore (1) Isaac
J (3) Juan, Jeanne, Joan (3) Jose, Jerry, Josephine
K (3) Katrina, Keith, Klaus (3) Kate, Karl, Karen
L (3) Lenny, Luis, Lili (3) Larry, Lisa, Leslie
M (4) Mitch, Maria, Michael, Marilyn (2) Mindy, Marco
N (2) Nate, Noel (2) Nicholas, Nicole, Nadine, Nana
O (2) Otto, Opal (4) Odette, Ophelia, Oscar, Omar
P (1) Paloma (5) Peter, Paula, Philippe, Patty, Pablo
R (2) Rita, Roxanne (4) Rose, Richard, Rafael, Rene
S (3) Stan, Sandy, Sally (3) Sam, Shary, Sebastien
T (1) Tomas (5) Teresa, Tammy, Tony, Tanya, Teddy
V (0) (6) Victor, Virginie, Vince, Valerie, Van, Vicky
W (1) Wilma (5) Wanda, Walter, William, Wendy, Wilfred

[Category5Kaiju]

With the 2025 season coming soon, I figured to take a look at the names that will be used this season.

I highly doubt we're going to see a Beryl-like storm this year, so unless we get some highly destructive, early-season tropical storm/minimal hurricane or an unusually quiet June/July with a giant burst in August activity, I think Barry and Chantal will survive this season.

In terms of OG names, the more interesting ones I think will be Erin or Gabrielle. Respectively, it's been 10 and 17 years since the Atlantic last retired an E name and a G name, so one would think we would be overdue for one (interestingly, if just looking at major hurricanes, the last Atlantic E name that got retired happened in 1975, even before the conventional name scheme we use nowadays came into effect). In contrast, the last D name that got retired happened in 2018, F in 2022, H in 2024, and I in 2022, so much more recent. Will this year be the year that breaks the drought for E and/or G? Or not?