2025 Tropical Cyclone Name Retirements (Including but not limited to the Atlantic Basin)

[Teban54]

Stating the obvious here but with Barry it's gonna depend on how much people associate the flooding with Barry and how many people are actually killed. It has some parallels with Dora and the Hawaii wildfire, although I think Barry is more involved in the flooding that Dora was with the fire. Unlike with Dora this won't be the worst natural disaster in the state and people might generally move on from it after a few months even with the loss of life.

If anything, I'd say that Barry is more similar to Lee 2011, which caused flooding in NE US as a remnant and became a billion-dollar storm (which was still relatively rare back then). Lee wasn't retired, likely because the coverage and discussions about its flooding were not really associated with the storm's name.

Dora was really an odd-ball, IMO. Speculation about Dora having an impact on the Hawaiian wildfires was unusually widely covered, far more than an average case of "storm impacts areas far from landfall". This is in part due to how severe and anomalous the impacts are in Hawaii.

Closest modern analogies to Dora are probably Helene (flooding in western NC/SC) and Ida (flooding in NY), although both were already worthy of retirements in the states they landfalled in.

[aaaaaa]

if hurricane dora was retired for wildfire in hawaii, i think tropical storm barry should be retired if really tropical storm barry remnant moisture caused Guadalupe tragedy

[wwizard]

Nobody, other than us weather nerds, are associating Barry with the Texas floods. The name Barry is never mentioned in the discussion. 5 years from now no one is saying remember when Barry flooded the Texas Hill Country?

[Category5Kaiju]

Wow, just wow. I've been reading some of the recent news about the Texas floods, and it unfortunately keeps getting worse by the day with more and more deaths being confirmed. This is looking likely to be the US's deadliest hydrological disaster in years.

Unfortunately, I don't think many in the general public are going to associate "Barry" with these floods, and I don't know how well the media is portraying this to have been tropical-related as well. Because of that, I don't think the name is going to be retired (or at least I'd be pleasantly surprised if it is). However, from a meteorological standpoint, Barry is a very strong candidate for retirement (as well as Debby from last year).

I know there are some comparisons being brought up with Dora in 2023, but I do think that this may not be a good comparison as there may have been some additional underlying factors to the decision to nix that name besides the wildfires, including to avoid confusion with retired Atlantic Dora that happened in 1964, as well as the EPAC's general lower bars for retirement than the Atlantic (for instance, if John happened on the Atlantic side with its 30 deaths and 2 billion dollars in damage, then I highly doubt it would've been retired; Karl 2010 caused 22 deaths and 4 billion dollars in damage but wasn't retired).