NATL: GABRIELLE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#141 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:56 pm

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#142 Postby TomballEd » Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:05 pm




At least it has convection now. NHC seems pretty confident is will survive then thrive.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#143 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:34 pm

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Only after moving into the subtropics. This is typical of a very unfavorable season.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#144 Postby Jr0d » Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:29 pm

The wave models and surf forecast has backed off considerably. However Gabriel is still forecasted to send a significant swell to the US east coast and will likely be a rip current threat.

I am not certain as its current condition will barely produce anything at all significant and if it continues to "under perform" those surf forecast will continue to back off,as will the rip current risk.

That said, Gabrielle sending a smaller swell to the beaches might be more hazardous as beach goers will stay out of the water when the surf is big, however a small swell with long intervals between sets(not wave period) can make the water look inviting but will have still strong rip currents that go unnoticed by most beach goers.

Small surf with infrequent relatively longer period sets are in my opinion, as a former ocean lifeguard, are the kind of conditions where we have the most rescues and unfortunately drownings.

Something to keep an eye on if Gabrielle stengthens as currently forecast.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#145 Postby mitchell » Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:19 pm

Jr0d wrote:The wave models and surf forecast has backed off considerably. However Gabriel is still forecasted to send a significant swell to the US east coast and will likely be a rip current threat.

I am not certain as its current condition will barely produce anything at all significant and if it continues to "under perform" those surf forecast will continue to back off, as will the rip current risk.


Yeah 18 z swell models have backed off all the way down to 4 feet @ 12 seconds ESE swell for the most exposed spots on the Outer Banks on Tuesday the 23rd with peak significant wave heights (nearshore) of around 5 feet. Smaller size in Florida and New England, so pretty minor swell event, if verifies.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#147 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Sep 19, 2025 12:59 am

Looks a lot better than it did earlier today, now we'll see if that can continue. Noticed the NHC went a little higher on the peak this cycle at 90kts. Would be nice to see an open Atlantic major as long as it misses Bermuda.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#148 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Sep 19, 2025 1:28 am

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#149 Postby TomballEd » Fri Sep 19, 2025 8:09 am




Might even be trying to put up storms near the center. Have to see if that persists.
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#150 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 19, 2025 8:33 am

Jogging westward.

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#151 Postby MGC » Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:21 am

Gabrielle looks slightly healthier this morning with convection persisting well away from the circulation center. Dry air is still an issue with the shear appears to be relaxing a bit. The cyclone does have a classic spiral low cloud appearance. Going to take several days for the dry air to abate.......MGC
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#152 Postby TomballEd » Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:57 am

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Might even be trying to put up storms near the center. Have to see if that persists.


So far, persisting. W or WNW motion was expected by NHC while the system is shallow. Now that storms are firing near the center, it will feel deeper layer steering soon.

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#153 Postby Teban54 » Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:06 am

Despite being almost devoid of convection and people calling for designation as a remnant low 24 hours ago, Gabrielle has been consistently firing hot convective towers ever since.

It's still clearly sheared, but this level of persistence reminds me of Fiona 2022 and Paulette 2020 at similar points of their lives.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#155 Postby Pelicane » Fri Sep 19, 2025 12:00 pm

Looks like the center is about to tuck itself under that new convective burst.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#156 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 19, 2025 1:48 pm

A. 07L (GABRIELLE)

B. 19/1800Z

C. 22.3N

D. 56.2W

E. FIVE/GOES-E

F. T3.0/3.0

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...LLCC <0.5 DEG FROM COLD OVERCAST RESULTS IN A DT OF 3.0. THE
MET AND PT ARE UNDEFINED DUE TO THE SYSTEM BEING SUBTROPICAL 24 HOURS
AGO. THE FT IS BASED ON THE DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#157 Postby ChrisH-UK » Fri Sep 19, 2025 2:09 pm

Looks like Gabrielle is starting to get convection over the centre.

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#158 Postby sasha_B » Fri Sep 19, 2025 6:32 pm

Gabrielle seems to have improved substantially over the course of the day, judging by recent LWIR satellite imagery. Curious to see if she'll continue to pick up the pace or if the improvement is only temporary.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#159 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:55 pm

One step away from hurricane according to dvorak sab.

A. 07L (GABRIELLE)

B. 20/0000Z

C. 22.9N

D. 56.9W

E. FIVE/GOES-E

F. T3.5/3.5

G. IR/EIR/PRXY

H. REMARKS...CENTER EMBEDDED 1/3 DEG INTO A LARGE COLD OVERCAST RESULTS
IN A DT OF 3.5. THE MET AND PT ARE UNDEFINED DUE TO THE SYSTEM BEING
SUBTROPICAL 24 HOURS AGO. THE FT IS BASED ON THE DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#160 Postby chaser1 » Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:15 am

ElectricStorm wrote:Looks a lot better than it did earlier today, now we'll see if that can continue. Noticed the NHC went a little higher on the peak this cycle at 90kts. Would be nice to see an open Atlantic major as long as it misses Bermuda.


Yep, big improvement actually. Checking out the Dvorak BD curve, I'd venture to guess we'll see a partial eye clear out tomorrow and possibly tettering on Hurricane upgrade by dinner-time today IF it can maintain its vigorous convection. Only other thought atm is that it appears to be tracking more westward but it's tough to be sure under that dense CDO.
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