NATL: GABRIELLE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#241 Postby zzzh » Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:56 am

750mb FL 119kt.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#242 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:08 am

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#243 Postby Kazmit » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:27 am

zzzh wrote:750mb FL 119kt.

Looks like it may be a cat 4 already since this wasn’t even in the NE quad.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#244 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:46 am

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#245 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:59 am

Latest extrap is 951.5 mb. The previous pass, a little under 1.5 hours ago, was 955.2 mb. (Tropical Tidbits seems to suggest that an eye drop showed 957 mb, but I can't find it.)

Obviously extrap pressures may not be super reliable, but using these alone suggests a deepening rate of 2.6 mb/hr.

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#246 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:04 pm

I thought the NHC forecasting a major in yesterday’s cone was a little optimistic, but wow Gabrielle has sure overachieved today. Especially since we weren’t sure it was even a TC for the first day lol.

Bermuda is lucky this is getting picked up by a trough right about now.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#247 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:04 pm

Getting stronger:

Peak Flight-Level Winds: 127kt at 16:56z
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#248 Postby Travorum » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:11 pm

cycloneye wrote:Getting stronger:

Peak Flight-Level Winds: 127kt at 16:56z


NOAA3 saw that and made a U-turn right back to that area :lol:
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#249 Postby kevin » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:14 pm

cycloneye wrote:Getting stronger:

Peak Flight-Level Winds: 127kt at 16:56z


Sufficient for an upgrade to a 115 kt cat 4. Extremely impressive considering where Gabrielle came from.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#250 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:22 pm

Teban54 wrote:Latest extrap is 951.5 mb. The previous pass, a little under 1.5 hours ago, was 955.2 mb. (Tropical Tidbits seems to suggest that an eye drop showed 957 mb, but I can't find it.)

Obviously extrap pressures may not be super reliable, but using these alone suggests a deepening rate of 2.6 mb/hr.

https://i.postimg.cc/bwWscYf9/recon-NOAA3-WH07-A-GABRIELLE-zoom.png


NOAA 3 has only dropped one dropsonde and was out of eye.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#251 Postby zzzh » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:24 pm

700mb FL 129kt is enough for an upgrade to Cat 4.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#252 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:25 pm

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#253 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:26 pm

Peak Flight-Level Wind: 129kt at 17:04z


By the way, kudos to a well known person who is part of the crew of NOAA 3, Andy Hazelton.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#254 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:28 pm

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#255 Postby Travorum » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:32 pm

Looking at tail doppler radar data I'm thinking Gabrielle went through/is in the late stages of an eyewall meld rather than a traditional EWRC.

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#256 Postby kevin » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:10 pm

This season is going for quality instead of quantity. Looks like a very healthy cat 4.

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#257 Postby Teban54 » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:17 pm

Note that there's a satellite data outage now: Most sources that I know only have GOES imagery as of 16:30z (12:30 pm EDT, almost 2 hours ago), not later.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#258 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:18 pm

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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#259 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:24 pm

There is a commonly held belief in Bermuda that the waters here could not support a category 5, and perhaps not even a category 4. Seeing this swirl just offshore has been eye opening.
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Re: NATL: GABRIELLE - Hurricane - Discussion

#260 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:26 pm

New lowest pressure from NOAA3.

Minimum Extrap. Pressure: 949.6mb at 18:18z
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