NATL: IMELDA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#441 Postby Teban54 » Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:15 pm

Well, here's our I storm.

Hopefully, despite the certain short-term impacts in the Bahamas, it will be like the last I storm (Isaac 2024) and overperform as a hurricane heading OTS afterwards. But Bermuda is still in the way, and I personally wouldn't even write off the possibility of Imelda looping back at some point (even something like the NE CONUS).
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#442 Postby Teban54 » Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:33 pm

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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#443 Postby zhukm29 » Sun Sep 28, 2025 2:07 pm

Teban54 wrote:Well, here's our I storm.

Hopefully, despite the certain short-term impacts in the Bahamas, it will be like the last I storm (Isaac 2024) and overperform as a hurricane heading OTS afterwards. But Bermuda is still in the way, and I personally wouldn't even write off the possibility of Imelda looping back at some point (even something like the NE CONUS).


Humberto really decided to come in and spare us from what could have been a major disaster, had Imelda ended up dumping those initially predicted rain amounts on the Carolinas and impacting areas already struggling with the aftermath of Helene. Not only did Humberto give us eye candy by becoming one of the best looking Cat 5s in the Atlantic, it also told Mother Nature "nope, the I curse isn't going to be happening this year!" :lol:

Hopefully Imelda stays away from Bermuda and puts on a show while exiting OTS. While it's a long shot, it would be neat to see the first 4 hurricanes become majors.
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#444 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 28, 2025 3:10 pm

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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#445 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2025 3:56 pm

Good news for residents in east Florida.

The Tropical Storm Watch has been discontinued for the east coast of
Florida from Palm Beach/Martin County Line to the Flagler/Volusia
County Line.
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#446 Postby sasha_B » Sun Sep 28, 2025 4:01 pm

Looking much better this evening with that convection near the center expanding & a more distinct curved-band presentation. Forecast to reach 45 kts by 6z & gradually intensify thereafter on the NHC's 21z advisory...it'll be interesting to see whether Imelda overperforms in the short-term. HWRF and both HAFS models show somewhat faster intensification in the next 24 hours, with all three taking Imelda below 990 hPa by 12z Monday.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#447 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2025 7:07 pm

Teban54 wrote:Well, here's our I storm.

Hopefully, despite the certain short-term impacts in the Bahamas, it will be like the last I storm (Isaac 2024) and overperform as a hurricane heading OTS afterwards. But Bermuda is still in the way, and I personally wouldn't even write off the possibility of Imelda looping back at some point (even something like the NE CONUS).


The final outcome is still not too clear yet. Is going OTS, but there may be some meaendering in the Subtropical Atlantic.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#448 Postby Teban54 » Sun Sep 28, 2025 9:15 pm

A bit mode deep convection close to the LLC. While the biggest towers are still east of there, the huge band to the E-SE that had been dominating all afternoon has subsided somewhat.

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#449 Postby sasha_B » Sun Sep 28, 2025 9:52 pm

VDM reports Imelda has a partial eyewall, open to the SE. Flight-level winds are also up to 46 kts. Looks like she might be organising a bit faster now.
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#450 Postby Zonacane » Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:08 pm

Fast moving VHT on the northern end of the eye
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#451 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:13 pm

Great video of the plane as it flew thru Imelda.

 https://x.com/53rdWRS/status/1972391451435888858

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#452 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:58 pm

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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#453 Postby abajan » Mon Sep 29, 2025 2:08 am

6z Best Track:

AL, 09, 2025092906, , BEST, 0, 251N, 771W, 40, 996, TS...

For the sake of comparison, here's the 0z Best Track:

AL, 09, 2025092900, , BEST, 0, 246N, 771W, 35, 998, TS...
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#454 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 29, 2025 4:52 am

Looks like that LL vort in the GOM got blocked so no tug on Imelda.
Humberto has the dance card.
Clearly Imelda is out to sea and CONUS has dodged a bullet.
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#455 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:46 am

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#456 Postby Kazmit » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:13 am

Interesting how the NHC talks about a sting jet developing as it accelerates to the east. We had the same thing occur for Humberto ‘19, which was on an eerily similar track:

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Hopefully this one isn’t a MH on approach, but I definitely think we could see a strengthening cat 2. Better start prepping.
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#457 Postby hipshot » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:54 am

Kazmit wrote:Interesting how the NHC talks about a sting jet developing as it accelerates to the east. We had the same thing occur for Humberto ‘19, which was on an eerily similar track:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Humberto_2019_path.png

Hopefully this one isn’t a MH on approach, but I definitely think we could see a strengthening cat 2. Better start prepping.


I'm just a lurker and weather nerd so can someone explain to me, so that I can understand, what is going to cause Imelda to make this
90 degree turn OTS. If it's Humberto, how is it tugging on Imelda when they are basically rotating in the same direction, if anything I
would think the stronger storm would push the weaker one more to the west.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#458 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:18 am

It will not impact the east U.S. coast, with the exception of some waves. Since the wind fetch will be moving to the east, away from the U.S, the waves will not be as large. It's certainly going to impact Bermuda.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#459 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:21 am

hipshot wrote:I'm just a lurker and weather nerd so can someone explain to me, so that I can understand, what is going to cause Imelda to make this
90 degree turn OTS. If it's Humberto, how is it tugging on Imelda when they are basically rotating in the same direction, if anything I
would think the stronger storm would push the weaker one more to the west.


Prior to tomorrow, Humberto is producing a steering current from north to south on its western side, causing Imelda to slow down. Once Humberto passes Imelda a little bit more, the jet stream will dip south in Humberto's wake. It is this WSW-ENE jet stream that carries Imelda off to the east-northeast. Humberto isn't pulling on Imelda.
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Re: NATL: IMELDA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#460 Postby hipshot » Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:16 am

wxman57 wrote:
hipshot wrote:I'm just a lurker and weather nerd so can someone explain to me, so that I can understand, what is going to cause Imelda to make this
90 degree turn OTS. If it's Humberto, how is it tugging on Imelda when they are basically rotating in the same direction, if anything I
would think the stronger storm would push the weaker one more to the west.


Prior to tomorrow, Humberto is producing a steering current from north to south on its western side, causing Imelda to slow down. Once Humberto passes Imelda a little bit more, the jet stream will dip south in Humberto's wake. It is this WSW-ENE jet stream that carries Imelda off to the east-northeast. Humberto isn't pulling on Imelda.

Thanks Wxman, that makes perfect since. Any chance the jet stream backs up to the north.
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