NATL: MELISSA - Aftermath - Discussion: Josh Morgerman video of Melissa is up

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1061 Postby HurricaneBelle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:10 pm

Guessing she's moving just enough to avoid upwelling
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1062 Postby hurricaneCW » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:18 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:Guessing she's moving just enough to avoid upwelling


Yes but the depth of warm water in the region extends very far down. Even a near stall wouldn't cause a lot of upwelling
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1063 Postby ATDoel » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:19 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:Guessing she's moving just enough to avoid upwelling


The warm water here extends to tremendous depths, it would need to sit in the same spot for a long time to cause any upwelling.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1064 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:26 pm

932.4 Extap

Edit: with 30kt winds so might be in the 920s
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1065 Postby MarioProtVI » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:28 pm

Only 129 kt FL.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1066 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:30 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Only 129 kt FL.


Strongest winds are likely in the NE quad.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1067 Postby NDG » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:31 pm

She's going for Cat 5 tonight!
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1068 Postby Beef Stew » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:38 pm

Melissa has an absurdly perfect satellite presentation for a sub category 5 storm (at least as of now).
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1069 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:39 pm

If we had SFMR on that plane, we might have had a better idea. There's nothing to suggest an intensity higher than 125 kt, although the pressure looks to be about 931 mb as it likely missed the eye.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1070 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:48 pm

There's a bit of a secondary wind maximum showing up, its more pronounced on the E side:

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1071 Postby ljmac75 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:51 pm

Eye dropsonde is 937 with 41 kt winds (~933) which would be a continuation of the 2 mb/hr deepening rate we've seen.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1072 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:56 pm

A big burst of convection is coming up in the W eyewall:

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1073 Postby Hurrilurker » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:56 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Melissa has an absurdly perfect satellite presentation for a sub category 5 storm (at least as of now).

Yeah I'm honestly surprised the pressure isn't lower with that presentation.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1074 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:01 pm

Eyewall diameter is reported as 15nm now

F. CLOSED
G. C15
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1075 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:04 pm

Travorum wrote:Eyewall diameter is reported as 15nm now

F. CLOSED
G. C15

Looks like a successful eyewall meld
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1076 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:10 pm

Wow that is a hell of a tower that just fired off in the western eyewall. So much for an asymmetrical cdo.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1077 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:10 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:
Travorum wrote:Eyewall diameter is reported as 15nm now

F. CLOSED
G. C15

Looks like a successful eyewall meld

...and it happened pretty quickly too
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1078 Postby sasha_B » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:10 pm

With the new convection over the apparently weak western eyewall, and the eyewall merge apparently successful, I'm wondering if we'll get to see the satellite presentation improve even further tonight. ADT was giving instantaneous T#s of 7.5-7.7 quite frequently towards the end of Melissa's initial ERI, but I think we'd need to see much colder cloud tops in the CDO for that to happen again.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1079 Postby Teban54 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:15 pm

Besides the continued mismatch between satellite-based estimates and true intensity, it remains bizarre how Melissa's continued pressure drops aren't translating to wind speed (as of now).

But if we assume that it just completed an eyewall meld, especially given the larger eye and the new, impressive hot tower to the west... Perhaps the wind will catch up very soon?

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1080 Postby Beef Stew » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:22 pm

Have to think that with that newest burst of convection on the western eye wall and the lack of a pronounced double wind maxima, Melissa is almost inevitably due to strengthen at some point and have her windspeeds and MSLP come closer to matching her structure.
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