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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1721 Postby Woofde » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:27 pm

Any guesses for intensity when recon hits the core?
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#1722 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:28 pm

Fancy1002 wrote:Am I seeing things, or is it starting to move slightly west southwest in the last couple frames??


That's a harbinger of a N to NNE movement soon.
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#1723 Postby Steve H. » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:30 pm

Well here on the east central coast of Florida, I’ve been waiting for this “cold” front to make passage. Overall it’s associated with a deep east coast trough that is expected to dig in. The longer it takes, the longer the storm will continue to creep westward in my opinion.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1724 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:33 pm

This is a very dramatic western shift... I wonder if any inner core dynamics are actually driving it.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1725 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:33 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:This is definitely one of the more p*ssed off looking hurricanes I've seen in the Atlantic.

https://i.imgur.com/JFxYQC8.png


Or maybe she’s happy given that she’s at peak performance. It’s we that are the unhappy ones.

(My personal personification headcanon: the reason a hurricane is so destructive is not because it is hostile to us, but because we’re essentially passing through their digestive tract or something)
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1726 Postby Travorum » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:34 pm

It's filled in a bit it seems, 910.1mb extrap. Interested to see the dropsonde
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1727 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:34 pm

Getting very close to a full pink ring on Tropcial Tidbits IR imagery. I have to wonder if the burst that caused it was due to an EWRC/meld or not. NOAA will be penetrating the side of the eyewall that burst originated from, so we should get some answers in moments.

Edit: no double wind maxima, but lower FL winds and ~910mb extrap
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1728 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:34 pm

910.1 - Extrapolated
146 - Flight Level
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1729 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:35 pm

She peaked earlier.
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#1730 Postby cainjamin » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:37 pm

910 pressure with 43 knot winds, could still be around 906 based on that.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1731 Postby Fancy1002 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:39 pm

Apparently the plane had to dodge a meso, so the pressure is likely lower cause they probably missed the eye
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1732 Postby michelinj » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:39 pm

michelinj wrote:I do think some eyewall replacement cycle is starting or occurring. The last few frames on imagery just show the CDO not as smooth as before. It would also fit in with the last eye drop just being a fraction drier. Whether it's another merger or a full cycle I'm not sure. Recon a while ago didn't show any double wind maxima so if so then it's come on rather quickly. Radar doesn't have much of a moat either so perhaps more merger than replacement.

If an EWRC of sorts is happening then could be a crucial few hours for Jamaica. Have seen it before where a little dry air or shear at just the wrong time when a storm is vulnerable mid-EWRC and it can really weaken a system. On the other hand a successful cycle and the wind field will expand, bringing some pretty populated areas within reach of stronger winds, and with ample time to strengthen further.

So not saying an EWRC is definitely happening, but certainly a change of some kind on IR imagery atm.


I think we did indeed see an EWRC earlier. Perhaps it’s completed as no double wind maxima on recon. Next few passes will probably show that. If it’s strengthening then EWRC done and on the mend. If it’s stable or weaker then perhaps she’s still sorting some stuff out under the hood
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#1733 Postby Woofde » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:40 pm

Fancy1002 wrote:Apparently the plane had to dodge a meso, so the pressure is likely lower cause they probably missed the eye
Its a weird looking pass thats for sure, flight level winds never went to zero like you would expect. Waiting for an eyedrop to confirm.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1734 Postby Teban54 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:41 pm

I believe this NOAA plane has TDR, so it would make it easier to see what's under the hood and the progress of an EWRC (if any).
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1735 Postby michelinj » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:43 pm

Latest eye drop showing 114kts at the surface? That feels too low unless I’m missing something. She’s definitely weakened a touch but that seems a little extreme

Edit: Another with 99kts so definitely something not quite right in that eyewall
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1736 Postby hipshot » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:43 pm

Steve H. wrote:Well here on the east central coast of Florida, I’ve been waiting for this “cold” front to make passage. Overall it’s associated with a deep east coast trough that is expected to dig in. The longer it takes, the longer the storm will continue to creep westward in my opinion.

According to Levi, the turn north is going to be caused by a ridge to its east that has won out over the ridge to the west. After that
turn, the trough will begin to pick it up and sling it through Cuba and the Bahamas and on out to Bermuda.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1737 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:43 pm

As the storm crosses the island, I'd expect some wild movements due to the mountains. Thats if it does turn!
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1738 Postby tolakram » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:43 pm

Impressive wobble, this might be a full loop if the SW motion continues.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1739 Postby Fancy1002 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:45 pm

I could be wrong, but it sounds like they definitely did not hit the Center, and the other plane that’s coming in has better equipment on it so we should take this current stuff with a grain of salt.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1740 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:47 pm

PavelGaborik10 wrote:She peaked earlier.


Might be a little too early to say that still
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