NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

[Beef Stew]

Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?

Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.

...Or twice in a few months, if you're 2005. Not to diminish back-to-back seasons with sub 900 storms, because it's literally an unprecedented feat (and one, you could argue, that actually more impressive because it requires more than just one really conductive season), but I'm not sure we'll see another season this century where we have multiple sub-900 storms.

[Jr0d]

Truly historic. I still can't actually believe we're witnessing a sub-900 mb landfall in the Atlantic... to me, that's always been this sort of mystified, fantastical benchmark set by one storm and one storm alone, and that, while I didn't doubt would happen again one day, I never expected to actually witness.

Living in the Florida Keys and seeing this, reminds me that it is inevitable to happen again here...just probably not in my lifetime, perhaps not in the next 200+ years, or ir can happen next season. We know its happened here before.

For a storm to reach sub 900mb is insane enough, but to make landfall is a once in a lifetime event. Hopefully we will never see this again in our lives. As fascinating as it is, the destruction is too grim.

Unfortunately with an apparent active cycle and/or excess ocean heat, there is a chance these events are becoming more common as noted by back to back seasons in the Atlantic with sub 900 monsters.

[tolakram]

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[aspen]

Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?

Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.

It’s crazy that 2 of the 7 sub-900 Atlantic hurricanes happened just a year apart — one of which was the first sub-900 landfall in nearly a century. Unreal stuff.

Imagine telling us in early September that this underperforming season would go on to produce Labor Day 2. You’d get banned for trolling.

[Jr0d]

Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?

Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.

...Or twice in a few months, if you're 2005. Not to diminish back-to-back seasons with sub 900 storms, because it's literally an unprecedented feat (and one, you could argue, that actually more impressive because it requires more than just one really conductive season), but I'm not sure we'll see another season this century where we have multiple sub-900 storms.

True, but having one make landfall is a once in a lifetime event, at least in the Atlantic.

[NotAHurricane]

They say it only takes one storm to define the season...

[GCANE]

 https://x.com/AndyHazelton/status/1983223753799524628

[Teban54]

[chris_fit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMBPM0KYLgo

Live from Montego Bay

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

Have there ever been 2 consecutive seasons with sub-900mb hurricanes?

Sub-900 mbar hurricanes are like legends. They only happen every so often, separated by a decade or not longer.

Having two seasons back to back with these kinds of hurricanes is a first in recorded Atlantic history.

...Or twice in a few months, if you're 2005. Not to diminish back-to-back seasons with sub 900 storms, because it's literally an unprecedented feat (and one, you could argue, that actually more impressive because it requires more than just one really conductive season), but I'm not sure we'll see another season this century where we have multiple sub-900 storms.

As the climate warms these once-rare storms are becoming more common.

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

They say it only takes one storm to define the season...

And this was the third category 5 storm of the season. Despite a slightly slow start it has been a blockbuster season.

[Hurricane2022]

The eye still intact despite being well over the mountains

[GCANE]

 https://x.com/volcaholic1/status/1983227705194651836

[johngaltfla]

Sad to say this, but it is crossing near the thinnest stretch of land in Western Jamaica. This bodes poorly for Cuba and the Southern Bahamas.

[CronkPSU]

maybe a dumb question but we all know the higher the elevation of a storm, the stronger the winds...if there are verified weather observatories that survive up in those mountains with higher winds, would those be counted for the official records?

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

Sad to say this, but it is crossing near the thinnest stretch of land in Western Jamaica. This bodes poorly for Cuba and the Southern Bahamas.

Mountains lower on this side of the island too. Even the little northward wobble will spare Melissa some of the higher peaks. Bad news for Cuba.

[MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS]

maybe a dumb question but we all know the higher the elevation of a storm, the stronger the winds...if there are verified weather observatories that survive up in those mountains with higher winds, would those be counted for the official records?

Hurricane ratings are based on the 1-minute sustained windspeeds at 10 meters elevation. There will be higher winds at elevation, and that will be acknowledged in the TCR, but that doesn't change the landfall intensity.

[CronkPSU]

maybe a dumb question but we all know the higher the elevation of a storm, the stronger the winds...if there are verified weather observatories that survive up in those mountains with higher winds, would those be counted for the official records?

Hurricane ratings are based on the 1-minute sustained windspeeds at 10 meters elevation. There will be higher winds at elevation, and that will be acknowledged in the TCR, but that doesn't change the landfall intensity.

thanks, really helpful answer!

[weunice]

This is the storm I wish we had better visibility into ....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hurricane_of_1780
Another October Caribbean monster ...

[WaveBreaking]