Teacher at DC suspended for showing clips of Passion

[Anonymous]

Um brett? I was replying to Chad. tks. HUH?!!

Hmm... your reply was right below my post and Tim's response... sorry for the misunderstanding, then.

But the question I posed still stands... whether it's about you taking a shot at me (which as I now know was not the case) or taking a shot at a society that allows high-schoolers to see movies with realistic depictions of the world, the whole practical vs. superficial Christian values is a point I would like to hear your thoughts on.

[Guest]

Well that explains ALOT!!

{Edited quote by Marshall}
Now for my response to the comment and what you're implying. It doesn't explain anything; you do not know me, you have never met me, and you have no clue what I am like... in fact, the only information you do have about me comes from a small sample of less than 100 posts in an Off-Topic forum of a weather message board.

The irony in this is that you seem convinced that I am some lost soul and hopeless deviant who has a negative impact on the world. You obviously hold Christian principles and values very high in importance... and for the most part, my daily actions adhere to the most fundamental of those principles better than many others my age. The only areas where I "stray" are superficial... profanity, lack of religious faith, and other so-called sins that, while the object of much contempt by your religion, are pragmatically unimportant. I get up every day hoping to make the best of what life has to offer, and make sure to have as little of a negative impact on others' lives as possible. You will not see me harassing or bullying other people; you will see me going about my business and allowing everyone else to do the same.

Now let's flip things around; let's consider the many, many teenagers out there who are baptized Christians, attend Church every Sunday... hell, maybe they're even in the Bible Club at school. They are doing great in the superficial area of faith and trust in God; their failings, however, are numerous when it comes to adhering to all the principles set forth in the Bible. Profanity, sexual experimentation, bullying, social elitism... you name it, they do it. This is a good description of many of the Christians I see at my school every day, and most of what they are doing (other than believing in God) you would not approve of.

Now tell me... which is worse for the world?

Hold up there Brett. First off where do you get off telling a moderater here what you just did??? Now your pushing the limit IMHO when you make statements like you did. You have a problem which by the looks of it you do then take it up with a admin here and dont go posting stuff such as you did. Had i been still a moderater here i would be suggesting a suspension right now for that rude remark you just made that was very uncalled for.

You do know where and what the edit button is?????

Thanks for editing your post Brett and as well for Marshall fixing mine!

[Stephanie]

Thanks KOW!

[timNms]

Now let's flip things around; let's consider the many, many teenagers out there who are baptized Christians, attend Church every Sunday... hell, maybe they're even in the Bible Club at school. They are doing great in the superficial area of faith and trust in God; their failings, however, are numerous when it comes to adhering to all the principles set forth in the Bible. Profanity, sexual experimentation, bullying, social elitism... you name it, they do it. This is a good description of many of the Christians I see at my school every day, and most of what they are doing (other than believing in God) you would not approve of.

Now tell me... which is worse for the world?

brettjrob, unfortunately, you'll find that there are some who CALL themselves Christians that don't practice what they preach. It makes me wonder if they are truly Christians. Just because one says he/she is a Christian, doesn't make it true. Actions speak louder than words sometimes. It is those people who give a bad name to those of us Christians who truly try to live like our Bible instructs.

[GalvestonDuck]

Brett,

Mind if I ask you to clarify what you mean by faith being superficial?

I understand religion might be considered superficial to some, if you view it as merely the outward signs and practices of one's beliefs (i.e., a Catholic going to confession, a Methodist going to kneel in prayer during an alter call, or a Pentecostal speaking in tongues). Not saying those ARE superficial, but some could see it that way because there are those who ONLY do those things, but they lack faith on the inside.

To many, faith is not something that can be observed in someone simply because they obey a rule or receive a sacrament. Faith is a strong belief in something positive (for Christians -- that would be God's love, mercy, and divine grace) It's what motivates and inspires us. It's what guides us and gives us strength. It's actually very hard to put into words how awesome faith can be unless someone else also understands it. Certain pieces in your life just fall into place and for those of us who put our faith in God's hands, we know that God answered our prayers (even if the answer was "no" to what we asked for, but things still worked out in the end). And when that happens, our faith is strengthens more.

So, if by "superficial area of faith," you actually mean religion, I think I get your drift. There are those who talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.

[Anonymous]

Brett,

Mind if I ask you to clarify what you mean by faith being superficial?

I understand religion might be considered superficial to some, if you view it as merely the outward signs and practices of one's beliefs (i.e., a Catholic going to confession, a Methodist going to kneel in prayer during an alter call, or a Pentecostal speaking in tongues). Not saying those ARE superficial, but some could see it that way because there are those who ONLY do those things, but they lack faith on the inside.

To many, faith is not something that can be observed in someone simply because they obey a rule or receive a sacrament. Faith is a strong belief in something positive (for Christians -- that would be God's love, mercy, and divine grace) It's what motivates and inspires us. It's what guides us and gives us strength. It's actually very hard to put into words how awesome faith can be unless someone else also understands it. Certain pieces in your life just fall into place and for those of us who put our faith in God's hands, we know that God answered our prayers (even if the answer was "no" to what we asked for, but things still worked out in the end). And when that happens, our faith is strengthens more.

So, if by "superficial area of faith," you actually mean religion, I think I get your drift. There are those who talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.

Another wonderful post IMO. Very good description of faith from an intelligent source that is willing to look at things from all angles. For all the debates I read through with the same tired regurgiated popular conservative rants and one-line responses that are about as thought-provoking as paint drying, this was a real breath of fresh air.

What I meant by the superficiality of faith is partially what you were describing... going through all the rituals, customs, traditions, etc., as if that is the most important aspect of a given religion... when CLEARLY, in my opinion, the far more important aspects are the guidelines on how to live life (compassion, nonviolence, etc.). The superficial portions may historically have played a great role in the religion, but to condemn someone who generally follows your (not you personally) religion's guidelines but does not go through the usual motions is just illogical and completely missing the point of having religion.

But again, I think you make some excellent, excellent points in your post about your faith. If this largely Christian board were to elect one member to debate religion with the non-believers, it would be foolish for it not to be you!