Bush's Mistakes in Iraq keep Piling up!

[Stephanie]

Looking back at DT's posts at the beginning. Is it anti war, or criticism of how the war's being prosecuted? There's a difference. I think that our commanders have to have every resource and every opportunity to take it to the bad guys and win the war. We are close now and now would be the worst time to chicken out.

In my case, it's the way it's being prosecuted. You know the addage "if you're going to do it, do it right the first time or don't do it at all". I look at the war in Iraq in this way. Why didn't we send more troops to help reinforce what we had there or quicken the pace? Why are we in a rush to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi government by June 30th? Are we really sure that they are ready? I don't think that they are if the Sunni Triangle is any indication. Are they trying to save a buck? Okay, so we're over there, but let's make sure that the democratic government that we set out to install in Iraq does occur; that the country is rebuilt as we said it would be, etc. I just see this as going on and on and if we were really up front about the cost in dollars and lives, I think more people would've been more accepting of it.

[Guest]

Bush Sr screwed up the 1st PG war and Junior is messing this one up Just as bad.

Looking back at DT's posts at the beginning. Is it anti war, or criticism of how the war's being prosecuted? There's a difference. I think that our commanders have to have every resource and every opportunity to take it to the bad guys and win the war. We are close now and now would be the worst time to chicken out.

In my case, it's the way it's being prosecuted. You know the addage "if you're going to do it, do it right the first time or don't do it at all". I look at the war in Iraq in this way. Why didn't we send more troops to help reinforce what we had there or quicken the pace? Why are we in a rush to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi government by June 30th? Are we really sure that they are ready? I don't think that they are if the Sunni Triangle is any indication. Are they trying to save a buck? Okay, so we're over there, but let's make sure that the democratic government that we set out to install in Iraq does occur; that the country is rebuilt as we said it would be, etc. I just see this as going on and on and if we were really up front about the cost in dollars and lives, I think more people would've been more accepting of it.

[timNms]

Bush Sr screwed up the 1st PG war and Junior is messing this one up Just as bad.

Looking back at DT's posts at the beginning. Is it anti war, or criticism of how the war's being prosecuted? There's a difference. I think that our commanders have to have every resource and every opportunity to take it to the bad guys and win the war. We are close now and now would be the worst time to chicken out.

In my case, it's the way it's being prosecuted. You know the addage "if you're going to do it, do it right the first time or don't do it at all". I look at the war in Iraq in this way. Why didn't we send more troops to help reinforce what we had there or quicken the pace? Why are we in a rush to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi government by June 30th? Are we really sure that they are ready? I don't think that they are if the Sunni Triangle is any indication. Are they trying to save a buck? Okay, so we're over there, but let's make sure that the democratic government that we set out to install in Iraq does occur; that the country is rebuilt as we said it would be, etc. I just see this as going on and on and if we were really up front about the cost in dollars and lives, I think more people would've been more accepting of it.

Could you elaborate on that a little. As in, how is he messing up?

[Lindaloo]

Bush Sr screwed up the 1st PG war and Junior is messing this one up Just as bad.

Looking back at DT's posts at the beginning. Is it anti war, or criticism of how the war's being prosecuted? There's a difference. I think that our commanders have to have every resource and every opportunity to take it to the bad guys and win the war. We are close now and now would be the worst time to chicken out.

In my case, it's the way it's being prosecuted. You know the addage "if you're going to do it, do it right the first time or don't do it at all". I look at the war in Iraq in this way. Why didn't we send more troops to help reinforce what we had there or quicken the pace? Why are we in a rush to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi government by June 30th? Are we really sure that they are ready? I don't think that they are if the Sunni Triangle is any indication. Are they trying to save a buck? Okay, so we're over there, but let's make sure that the democratic government that we set out to install in Iraq does occur; that the country is rebuilt as we said it would be, etc. I just see this as going on and on and if we were really up front about the cost in dollars and lives, I think more people would've been more accepting of it.

And Clinton screwed up extraditing Bin Laden from Sudan. He FAILED!! He also failed in stopping the attacks on our own people THREE times.

[Guest]

Is this a Joke?

Bush has screwed this up 9 ways from Tuesday....

for a partial List see my other thread on this.

But even GEORGE WILL says Bush is screwing this up. Baghad fell a year ago. We have not spent one dime on telling the Iraqis why we are
a) not staying
b) why freedom is good for them and their children
c) why capitalism will help them

why was there NO immediate US army response after the masscare of those 4 civilians in Fallujah last week?

Those bodies were hanging from the trees and bridges for 8-10 hrs.

why was Fallujah left FREE and open-- the heart of the oraqi nazi party for 60 days?

Bush Sr screwed up the 1st PG war and Junior is messing this one up Just as bad.

Looking back at DT's posts at the beginning. Is it anti war, or criticism of how the war's being prosecuted? There's a difference. I think that our commanders have to have every resource and every opportunity to take it to the bad guys and win the war. We are close now and now would be the worst time to chicken out.

In my case, it's the way it's being prosecuted. You know the addage "if you're going to do it, do it right the first time or don't do it at all". I look at the war in Iraq in this way. Why didn't we send more troops to help reinforce what we had there or quicken the pace? Why are we in a rush to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi government by June 30th? Are we really sure that they are ready? I don't think that they are if the Sunni Triangle is any indication. Are they trying to save a buck? Okay, so we're over there, but let's make sure that the democratic government that we set out to install in Iraq does occur; that the country is rebuilt as we said it would be, etc. I just see this as going on and on and if we were really up front about the cost in dollars and lives, I think more people would've been more accepting of it.

Could you elaborate on that a little. As in, how is he messing up?

[Guest]

Yes he did. Blll clinton was a Terible foreign policy president

Bush Sr screwed up the 1st PG war and Junior is messing this one up Just as bad.

Looking back at DT's posts at the beginning. Is it anti war, or criticism of how the war's being prosecuted? There's a difference. I think that our commanders have to have every resource and every opportunity to take it to the bad guys and win the war. We are close now and now would be the worst time to chicken out.

In my case, it's the way it's being prosecuted. You know the addage "if you're going to do it, do it right the first time or don't do it at all". I look at the war in Iraq in this way. Why didn't we send more troops to help reinforce what we had there or quicken the pace? Why are we in a rush to hand over the reigns to the Iraqi government by June 30th? Are we really sure that they are ready? I don't think that they are if the Sunni Triangle is any indication. Are they trying to save a buck? Okay, so we're over there, but let's make sure that the democratic government that we set out to install in Iraq does occur; that the country is rebuilt as we said it would be, etc. I just see this as going on and on and if we were really up front about the cost in dollars and lives, I think more people would've been more accepting of it.

And Clinton screwed up extraditing Bin Laden from Sudan. He FAILED!! He also failed in stopping the attacks on our own people THREE times.

[Aslkahuna]

hasn't been that great of a Foreign Policy President either and from where I sit, I can see that we are not doing great shakes in the war effort as well. In fact, this reminds me of an Iraqi version of Tet in 1968. Even though in the long run they will be defeated in the short term, we will look like bumbling fools and idiots and will have screwed things up so badly that what ulitmately becomes of Iraq will be something not at all what we want (can anyone spell I-R-A-N?). Finally, this is not helping out with the war on terror at all as it's only encouraging them and directing our resources away from where they need to be-in Afghanistan and along our own Borders which are leaky sieves.

Steve

[rainstorm]

this is a rather silly post to be honest. mistakes happen in war, quite often actually. just to name a few:
battle of the bulge, yikes, we should of seen that coming.
dieppe, big mistake
gallipolli
fighting the whole length of italy
anzio
just a few.
mistakes happen in war, and im sure there will be more.

some additions:
doug, are you sure the chinese army isnt in nkorea?
pres truman, are you sure you should exclude korea from our sphere of protection?
fdr, you couldnt put all the clues together before 07dec41?

[Lindaloo]

hasn't been that great of a Foreign Policy President either and from where I sit, I can see that we are not doing great shakes in the war effort as well. In fact, this reminds me of an Iraqi version of Tet in 1968. Even though in the long run they will be defeated in the short term, we will look like bumbling fools and idiots and will have screwed things up so badly that what ulitmately becomes of Iraq will be something not at all what we want (can anyone spell I-R-A-N?). Finally, this is not helping out with the war on terror at all as it's only encouraging them and directing our resources away from where they need to be-in Afghanistan and along our own Borders which are leaky sieves.

Steve

Steve, had he not imposed that immigration law would you still be against Bush? I remember you were for Bush until that surfaced.

[rainstorm]

oh, and admiral halsey, was it a wise idea to go after those decoy japanese aircraft carriers?

[Aslkahuna]

without securing our borders certainly didn't help matters any but I really haven't been all that much for Bush since I didn't even vote for him (nor Gore) in 2000-no way was I going to do that after his stooges unleashed that hatchet job on McCain. I've always had one overriding problem with the operation in Iraq and that was why was it so necessary to commit so many resources to overrunning Iraq before finishing the job on OBL and his cronies in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As an ex-military man I will support our Military but that doesn't mean that I have to support the people who put them in Harm's Way when they screw up.

Steve

[Lindaloo]

Excellent reply Steve. Thanks!!

I do agree with you 100% about the need to secure our borders. I know the town in which you live in is always having problems because of illegal immigrants!