What do you think of Bush speech and ultimatum?

mf_dolphin · #21 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:22 am

Exile has long been used to control despots and remove them from their positions of power. This is not a new precedence...get it right!

[quote=rainstorm]g-with saddams govt completely intact, they wil be able to create instability in iraq. we did it right in 1945. we totaaly eradicated the previous regimes in germany and japan. can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if the nazis had been allowed to be free in comfy exhile? [/quote]

Read your history! In both cases, a significant number of both German and Japanese regimes were kept as part of the reconstruction efforts in both countries. Only a few of the leadership were brought to trial. In the case of the Japanese, most of their chemical and biological scientists were given a free ride to jump start our own chemical and biological weapons programs. A dark day in our history for sure but a fact!

Derek Ortt · #22 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:22 am

If Saddam is exiled with his money (which we are offering, by telling Saddam to leave or face war), he will still be able to sponser terrorists. Saddam needs to be tried as a war criminal, not just deposed of power

Rainband · #23 Postby **Rainband** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:22 am

rainstorm wrote:
Skywatch_NC wrote:Surely in sound mind and body, Bush WILL NOT offer exile to Saddam and his henchmen!

AND HIS SONS, AND HIS WHOLE GOVT COMFY EXHILE. bush's whole speech will be a joke. for a 2nd time a bush president will fail to get the job done

Bush offering exile to Saddam is only because HE knows he won't comply....Strategy My friends..thats what this is. I still laugh when I read the comments on here..Some of you really underestimate the resolve and intelligence of our President!!!! :roll:

Johnathan

rainstorm · #24 Postby **rainstorm** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:24 am

is connected to al queda? why are we giving a terrorist a free pass? are we serious about the "war" on terrorism?

mf_dolphin · #25 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:24 am

The biggest difference will be that he won't have chemical and biological weapons to give to them. I doubt that Saddam will accept exile but it is an option he may choose. What we don't know are the terms of an exile so to speculate about it without the facts is pointless.

rainstorm · #26 Postby **rainstorm** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:27 am

Rainband wrote:
rainstorm wrote:
Skywatch_NC wrote:Surely in sound mind and body, Bush WILL NOT offer exile to Saddam and his henchmen!

AND HIS SONS, AND HIS WHOLE GOVT COMFY EXHILE. bush's whole speech will be a joke. for a 2nd time a bush president will fail to get the job done
Bush offering exile to Saddam is only because HE knows he won't comply....Strategy My friends..thats what this is. I still laugh when I read the comments on here..Some of you really underestimate the resolve and intelligence of our President!!!!

Johnathan

reports are that saddam has already transfered 7 billion out of iraq. also, the families of big shots have been leaving for some time. i have the sinking feeling bush is going to allow a terrorist a life of luxury

Skywatch_NC · #27 Postby **Skywatch_NC** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:29 am

Like Chad has done...I'm just going to have TO STOP reading rainstorm's posts! :lol:

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YES, Johnathan I DO TRUST our President, Bro!

southerngale · #28 Postby **southerngale** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:32 am

rainstorm wrote:is connected to al queda? why are we giving a terrorist a free pass? are we serious about the "war" on terrorism?

No, rainstorm. We're not serious about the "war" on terrorism. It was all a big joke. Bush was just teasing about getting bin laden and he's secretly friends with Saddam. :roll:

Come on! Why do you even make ridiculous statements like that? This is a very serious situation. You said that Bush's speech will be a joke? Who's side are you on anyway? :roll:

rainstorm · #29 Postby **rainstorm** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:33 am

mf_dolphin wrote:Exile has long been used to control despots and remove them from their positions of power. This is not a new precedence...get it right!

[quote=rainstorm]g-with saddams govt completely intact, they wil be able to create instability in iraq. we did it right in 1945. we totaaly eradicated the previous regimes in germany and japan. can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if the nazis had been allowed to be free in comfy exhile?

Read your history! In both cases, a significant number of both German and Japanese regimes were kept as part of the reconstruction efforts in both countries. Only a few of the leadership were brought to trial. In the case of the Japanese, most of their chemical and biological scientists were given a free ride to jump start our own chemical and biological weapons programs. A dark day in our history for sure but a fact![/quote]

in both cases you cite the leadership of both govts were hanged. further,
many more officials in germany were tried by german courts. i would be quite satisfied to see saddam , his sons, and his chief henchmen tried in iraqi courts by the iraqi people. again, bush has connected saddam to al queda. why will we give this terrorist a free pass? clinton, who many people thought was weak, at least brought milosevich to justice.

Rob-TheStormChaser · #30 Postby **Rob-TheStormChaser** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:35 am

Welp...here go the debates! lol Lets just see what's said tonight and take it from there. Nothing is really happening yet to incline a war will even happen....just a waiting game like in 1991.

rainstorm · #31 Postby **rainstorm** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:37 am

southerngale wrote:
rainstorm wrote:is connected to al queda? why are we giving a terrorist a free pass? are we serious about the "war" on terrorism?

No, rainstorm. We're not serious about the "war" on terrorism. It was all a big joke. Bush was just teasing about getting bin laden and he's secretly friends with Saddam.

Come on! Why do you even make ridiculous statements like that? This is a very serious situation. You said that Bush's speech will be a joke? Who's side are you on anyway?

i am on the side of justice. i am on the side of hanging saddam, a man bush has connected to al queda and equated to hitler. i am not on the side of allowing saddam to go into comfy exhile and funding terrorism against the united states in the future

Rainband · #32 Postby **Rainband** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:39 am

Rob-TheStormChaser wrote:Welp...here go the debates! lol Lets just see what's said tonight and take it from there. Nothing is really happening yet to incline a war will even happen....just a waiting game like in 1991.

Rob are you watching TV..IMHO it will begin soon!!!!More reserves in my local area left a bit ago..They were just called to ACTIVE DUTY!!! I say it's gonna happen tonight or tommorow..but I could be wrong.

Johnathan

southerngale · #33 Postby **southerngale** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:39 am

rainstorm wrote:

clinton, who many people thought was weak, at least brought milosevich to justice.

milosevich???

Look how well he took care of BIN LADEN and SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!

No, he was too busy with with Happy Lips to even worry about those guys.

southerngale · #34 Postby **southerngale** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:43 am

Rainband wrote:
Rob-TheStormChaser wrote:Welp...here go the debates! lol Lets just see what's said tonight and take it from there. Nothing is really happening yet to incline a war will even happen....just a waiting game like in 1991.
Rob are you watching TV..IMHO it will begin soon!!!!More reserves in my local area left a bit ago..They were just called to ACTIVE DUTY!!! I say it's gonna happen tonight or tommorow..but I could be wrong.

Johnathan

Bear in the Big Blue House is on my big screen. :roll:

That's the TV I can see from the computer. What am I missing Rainband?

Rob-TheStormChaser · #35 Postby **Rob-TheStormChaser** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:45 am

I still see troops deployed and so forth yes, but until I SEE with my own eyes, this is all hearsay. Trust me, I know the sinking feeling before war happens..I was in the last one and I see no real indicators that it'll happen within the next few hours....soon, if at all....we'll see.

Rainband · #36 Postby **Rainband** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:49 am

southerngale wrote:
Rainband wrote:
Rob-TheStormChaser wrote:Welp...here go the debates! lol Lets just see what's said tonight and take it from there. Nothing is really happening yet to incline a war will even happen....just a waiting game like in 1991.
Rob are you watching TV..IMHO it will begin soon!!!!More reserves in my local area left a bit ago..They were just called to ACTIVE DUTY!!! I say it's gonna happen tonight or tommorow..but I could be wrong.

Johnathan

Bear in the Big Blue House is on my big screen. That's the TV I can see from the computer. What am I missing Rainband?

ALOT!!! Weapons inspectors are leaving teusday morning Iraq time..They just announced.. :roll:

Johnathan

southerngale · #37 Postby **southerngale** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:52 am

rainstorm wrote:
southerngale wrote:
rainstorm wrote:is connected to al queda? why are we giving a terrorist a free pass? are we serious about the "war" on terrorism?

No, rainstorm. We're not serious about the "war" on terrorism. It was all a big joke. Bush was just teasing about getting bin laden and he's secretly friends with Saddam.

Come on! Why do you even make ridiculous statements like that? This is a very serious situation. You said that Bush's speech will be a joke? Who's side are you on anyway?

i am on the side of justice. i am on the side of hanging saddam, a man bush has connected to al queda and equated to hitler. i am not on the side of allowing saddam to go into comfy exhile and funding terrorism against the united states in the future

I am on the side of hanging Saddam too. I'm sure everyone here is!

Surely you don't think we'd allow him to go into comfy exile and continue to fund terrorism, develop WMD, and then return to Iraq. You have one wild imagination. <<geesh>>

I think there's about a "1/2" percent chance at best Saddam will go into exile. :roll:

I just think you're getting your undies in a knot over the wrong thing. JMHO!

Rob-TheStormChaser · #38 Postby **Rob-TheStormChaser** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:53 am

I have the Darlington 200 on my screen now...lol While I'm a patriot and served my country honorably, I could do without the smearing going on now over this and that and just let the president tell us like we should be told. People in 1991 were glued to the screens and they will this time as well, but lets not jump the gun on probable cause and wait for the rounds to be fired downrange before we make assumptions based on observations. I've said my peace and I'll now go on living knowing that there's always a tomorrow for me and hope there is for everyone else, especially in the war environment.

southerngale · #39 Postby **southerngale** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:54 am

Rainband wrote:
southerngale wrote:
Rainband wrote:
Rob-TheStormChaser wrote:Welp...here go the debates! lol Lets just see what's said tonight and take it from there. Nothing is really happening yet to incline a war will even happen....just a waiting game like in 1991.
Rob are you watching TV..IMHO it will begin soon!!!!More reserves in my local area left a bit ago..They were just called to ACTIVE DUTY!!! I say it's gonna happen tonight or tommorow..but I could be wrong.

Johnathan

Bear in the Big Blue House is on my big screen. That's the TV I can see from the computer. What am I missing Rainband?
ALOT!!! Weapons inspectors are leaving teusday morning Iraq time..They just announced..

Johnathan

Thanks Rainband...going in another room to see what's going on. Be back later.

Rainband · #40 Postby **Rainband** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:11 pm

Skywatch_NC wrote:Like Chad has done...I'm just going to have TO STOP reading rainstorm's posts!

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YES, Johnathan I DO TRUST our President, Bro!

I know YOU do skywatch, that comment wasn't about you..I am gonna stop reading his posts too LOL :wink:

Johnathan

What do you think of Bush speech and ultimatum?

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it worked really good with napolean the 1st time

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