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Russia: War against Iraq illegal

#1 Postby bfez1 » Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:55 pm

March 17 - Following the decision by the United States and Britain to abandon diplomacy and gird for battle with Iraq, lawmakers and governments around the world started lining up to support or oppose the likely war. Russia called Monday for last-minute attempts to solve the crisis peacefully, saying any resort to force would be both a mistake and illegal.
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#2 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:05 pm

Do the words "BITE ME!" sound appropriate?
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#3 Postby wx247 » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:16 pm

It is not illegal. The resolution that was passed unanimously stands alone in being reason enough for this war... if you want to get techincal.
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#4 Postby Rainband » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:19 pm

wx247 wrote:It is not illegal. The resolution that was passed unanimously stands alone in being reason enough for this war... if you want to get techincal.
Not to mention 567 and 587(I think thats the correct ones) they are in breach from them also :wink:


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#5 Postby wx247 » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:20 pm

True!
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#6 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:23 pm

It kills me the countries that yell about legality...

Germany (WWI and WWII)

Russia ( Afganistan, Poland, Chekoslovakia)

Iraq (Iran, Kuwait)

Give me a break!
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#7 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:26 pm

Resolution 1441 says that serious consequenses will follow if Iraq doesn't complie so I dont see why France,Germany and Russia are opposed because that resolution that the US-UK and Spain had and retired today had the same words that 1441 but only the timeframe was the key for that opposition.
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#8 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:44 pm

Se how the tides are turning against the war now? My thinking all along...I hope and pray we dont have war, but if it happens, then thats because we've exhausted all of the possibilities and this was the last resort...as its always been. We'll see. I still think war can and will be avoided for the next 3 days as everyone else here thinks.
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#9 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:48 pm

I don't see any tides turning. The camps are polarized but if anything American opinion is more in favor of military action than it was three weeks ago.
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#10 Postby Guest » Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:49 pm

Lets pray that this issue get resolved one way or another - I think it is going to be war IMO. An 72 hour deadline given - UN inspectors asked to leave - I think more and more signs point to war - Sadamn doesn't want a peaceful resolution - we have to do what has to be done.

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#11 Postby JQ Public » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:12 pm

All war is illegal, but sometimes you gotta break the rules ;)
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#12 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:17 pm

Remember....Bush needs to commit to signing a Declaration Of War before we go anywhere.
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#13 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:20 pm

Bush has the backing of congress when they voted and passed the resolution of use of force on early november.
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#14 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:21 pm

Yes but you still need a declaration to start these war games.
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#15 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:25 pm

In the 1991 Gulf war that you participated there was no declaration of war from the US that was signed.
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#16 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:37 pm

I didnt say there has to be a signature....just a declaration. Wars that have a declaration sometimes ties up our military in needs to prepare for war. Verbal declaration is all thats needed to get the ball rolling and this hasnt been said as of yet. When we go to war.....it will be declared as such before we start it.
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#17 Postby azsnowman » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:38 pm

Screw them, since when do we answer to these @$$'s?? Since when is war legal, this action is about morality, not whether or not it's LEGAL. The nerve of them, what about when they first occupied Afghanistan, what about the 100's of 1000's of people they've killed???

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#18 Postby Rob-TheStormChaser » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:40 pm

The concept of the declaration of war has been a

part of the American system of government since the

Constitution was adopted in 1787. Its justification

revolves around the requirement to manifest, via the

legislative process, the backing of the American people

regarding any involvement of U.S. combat forces. With

such reasonable justification, one would expect to see

the Congress approve a declaration of war in every

application of U.S. military force.
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