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#981 Postby Pileus » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:45 pm

Sorry try that again. What happened to Tex and La being possible targets?
Thats all Ive heard until now.
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Hello Bonnie!!!!!!!!

#982 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:48 pm

O.K. maybe I'm jumping the gun here but this
baby looks like she is Bonnie in the making.
Make sure you speed up the frames to view
the organization better.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=16
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#983 Postby Anonymous » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:50 pm

Yes, it is really close to being upgraded imo. Im getting more and more worried as this thing gets stronger.
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#984 Postby freeport_texas2005 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:54 pm

i still say its going towards la/tx...but if im wrong it wont be the first time
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#985 Postby Anonymous » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:56 pm

Its timing thats everything...This trough better hurry up if it wants turn this and push it into the northern gulf coast (ALA, MIS, FLA). Its already clearing the Yucatan and emerging into the gulf.
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#986 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:02 pm

WOW... seems to be moving quicker than I thought. Defintely looks like Bonnie. :eek:
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#987 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:04 pm

Please calm down....there isn't even a sign of a surface circulation based on visible satellite pictures...just barely a mid-level circulation.

It may develop...just not now....especially with 12 hours of any sustainable deep-ish convection...there needs to be at least 24-36.
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#988 Postby Anonymous » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:06 pm

Eh.. I think it looks pretty good right now... I can see a spin, and this radar suggest it also...

http://www.passco.com/cancun.htm
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#989 Postby Brent » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:06 pm

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Please calm down....there isn't even a sign of a surface circulation based on visible satellite pictures...just barely a mid-level circulation.

It may develop...just not now....especially with 12 hours of any sustainable deep-ish convection...there needs to be at least 24-36.


It could put down an LLC VERY quickly with the rate of explosive development that is going on now. :eek:
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#990 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:11 pm

OK OK

A flare up of convection does not mean an increase in organization. There is no surface center. Development is possible, though initially it will likely be slow
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#991 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:11 pm

Houstoner: The spin is clearly at the mid-levels, and it is very weak as well.

Brent: I understand what you may think, however, we do not know if this "explosion" of convection is just because of afternoon convectivity or not. As far as we know, it could easily go back down overnight.

If it does persist overnight and through tomorrow, however, you can expect a greater possibility of development.
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#992 Postby Rainband » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:12 pm

Good points derek and DocHurricane!! :wink:
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Current model runs and X-TD-2

#993 Postby MGC » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:24 pm

I am not buying into the sharp right hand turn the models are forecasting. Here is why: The models are handeling the front that is coming down typical of a frontal system of say October. Typically, fronts are oriented SW-NW during late fall. However, weak fronts typical of summer are usually oriented W-E as they stall in the northern GOM. Therefor steering currents do not support a sharp right turn.....MGC
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#994 Postby Rainband » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:26 pm

Nothing has been typical this year!! :wink:
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Okay here is a better view of potential Bonnie

#995 Postby Guest » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:31 pm

Image
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#996 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:31 pm

Better view?
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#997 Postby bkhusky2 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:32 pm

What about the Cancun radar? I've saved the last few images and manually looped them and there does appear to be some spin at the surface. It's not well defined, but there is some surface rotation.
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Re: Current model runs and X-TD-2

#998 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:33 pm

MGC wrote:I am not buying into the sharp right hand turn the models are forecasting. Here is why: The models are handeling the front that is coming down typical of a frontal system of say October. Typically, fronts are oriented SW-NW during late fall. However, weak fronts typical of summer are usually oriented W-E as they stall in the northern GOM. Therefor steering currents do not support a sharp right turn.....MGC


Well on the latest map it looks like a traditional front, SW-NE. So maybe the models are right?
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#999 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:35 pm

Radars can pick up mid-level rotations as well...especially at the longer distances required to reach 02L.
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#1000 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:35 pm

bkhusky2 wrote:What about the Cancun radar? I've saved the last few images and manually looped them and there does appear to be some spin at the surface. It's not well defined, but there is some surface rotation.


That cancun radar site must be on a 14.4 connection.
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