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Total mandatory Keys evac. Fri./shelters closed.......

#2641 Postby dixiebreeze » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:24 pm

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#2642 Postby chris_fit » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:26 pm

I think thats somewhat to the left of where I think it will go.
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#2643 Postby Raebie » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:26 pm

Hey, I'm a '85 grad.

Go Boilers!
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#2644 Postby Anonymous » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:27 pm

Derek.... too far right J/k :lol:
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#2645 Postby LowMug » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:27 pm

AL Chili Pepper wrote:From the looks of the WV loop, I don't see how the ridge can build to the west for much longer. It might be enough to save Miami though...if it holds.


totally concur...this is going to be a Charley track or a stall and then who knows where
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#2646 Postby Patrick99 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:27 pm

I'm looking at the NW Atlantic WV loop too. The westward expansion of the ridge appears to have hit a bit of a brick wall. It actually looks as if it hit that wall, and then nosed south a little.
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#2647 Postby tronbunny » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:29 pm

That's still Tallahassee...
I agree with Chris.

Derek, my amateur synoptics analysis still have you to the left.

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#2648 Postby Ixolib » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:30 pm

~Floydbuster wrote:Derek.... too far right J/k :lol:


Floyd - how far right might you consider his forecast to be?
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#2649 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:32 pm

I don't know if this fits your bill of a cyclonic motion around mountains, but it looks rather odd.

http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/at197906.asp
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#2650 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:33 pm

graphics at http://www.nwhhc.com/atl092004graphics.html


This forecast is RIGHT of NOGAPS, CMC, near UKMET, and right of GFDN (version of GFDL we probably should be using)
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#2651 Postby LowMug » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:33 pm

Patrick99 wrote:I'm looking at the NW Atlantic WV loop too. The westward expansion of the ridge appears to have hit a bit of a brick wall. It actually looks as if it hit that wall, and then nosed south a little.


it has...
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#2652 Postby calidoug » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:35 pm

He'll shift right some more in the morning...

The trend is your friend...
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#2653 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:35 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:graphics at http://www.nwhhc.com/atl092004graphics.html


This forecast is RIGHT of NOGAPS, CMC, near UKMET, and right of GFDN (version of GFDL we probably should be using)

I'm with you on this, but west about 75 miles...I'm thinking Pensacola to Panama City landfall at this time.
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#2654 Postby B-Bear » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:36 pm

Question for you Derek: You made a lot of emphasis in your forecast regarding how dangerous this situation might be for the Keys, yet you track Ivan fairly well west of the Keys. Is your degree of confidence in the track not that high as of yet?
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#2655 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:37 pm

there has been a large windfield so this track would likely bring hurricane force winds to the keys, along with a destructive storm surge
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#2656 Postby NJCane » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:37 pm

May I ask what you think about the hurricane models indicating some type of NNE motion at some point and more importantly the Euro's solution which has been consistent for 6 runs in a row now with a south FL to Carolinas event. This is important because the Euro nailed Charley and Frances when the other models screamed a different solution. Thoughts on the low in the eastern Atlantic and its impact? I am not bashing, merely trying to get your thoughts on some of this other substantial model info
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#2657 Postby sea oat » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:37 pm

If that storm were to go into Appalachicola Bay and i'm on the west side in Fort Walton Beach or Destin, how much damage would I see from a cat 5 storm? I've only been through cat 3's here, i.e. Eloise, Opal, etc.

Thank you for any input.
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#2658 Postby huricanwatcher » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:38 pm

skirt the keys and up the east coast........ imo...
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#2659 Postby quickychick » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:41 pm

Youch. No playing around this time.
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#2660 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:41 pm

Derek,

An observation and a question. I think you are like the NHC in that as the trends verfiy, and synoptics line up you shift your track. My question is what would be the data that would shift your track more east after the next 6 hr data set?
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