Is the 18Z - 00Z Jeanne recon cancelled?

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Is the 18Z - 00Z Jeanne recon cancelled?

#1 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:31 pm

I haven't seen a new recco message since this morning.
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#2 Postby MWatkins » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:33 pm

They probably kept the crew grounded since jeanne is over land. Probably won't go out again until the system is back over water.

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#3 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:34 pm

Recon planes typically don't fly into systems over land, especially one over 10,000 foot mountains like Jeanne.
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#4 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:37 pm

Funny, I just had an image of some unfortunate Dominican going outside to stare up Jeanne's eye and getting a dropsonde in the forehead. :-)

Anyway ... that makes sense. Thanks.
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#5 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:38 pm

Ummm ... Brent ... no 10,000 foot mountains in that part of DR.

But anyway, I get the idea.
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#6 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:42 pm

x-y-no wrote:Ummm ... Brent ... no 10,000 foot mountains in that part of DR.

But anyway, I get the idea.


The 10,000 foot mountains aren't far away.

A recon plane flies through all quadrants not just the center.
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#7 Postby tronbunny » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:42 pm

Doesn't look like anything's been cancelled.
No notice about it since then, just some notes about NOAA radio not broadcasting for a bit up in VA.

It usually takes about 2-2.5 hrs from take off to get data, and then possibly another hour or so to post it.

I get my data from the NHC FTP site:
ftp://anonymous@ftp.nhc.noaa.gov//pub/products/nhc/recon/2004091614.rcn
NOUS42 KNHC 161430
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI,FL.
1030 AM EDT THU 16 SEP 2004
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 17/1100Z TO 18/1100Z SEP 2004
TCPOD NUMBER.....04-110
I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS

1. HURRICANE JEANNE

FLIGHT ONE FLIGHT TWO

A. 17/1800,18/0000Z A. 18/0000Z
B. AFXXX 0611A JEANNE B. AFXXX 0711A JEANNE
C. 17/1530Z C. 17/1730Z
D. 21.2N 72.6W D. N/A
E. 17/1700Z TO 18/0030Z E. N/A
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. 18,000 TO 30,000 FT

FLIGHT THREE

A. 18/0600,1200Z
B. AFXXX 0811A JEANNE
C. 18/0330Z
D. 22.3N 74.2W
E. 18/0500Z TO 18/1230Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: POSSIBLE 3-HRLY FIXES BEGINNING
AT 18/1500Z. PROBABLE G-IV MISSION DEPARTING 18/1730Z.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
JWP
ftp://anonymous@ftp.nhc.noaa.gov//pub/products/nhc/recon/2004091614.rcn
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#8 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:47 pm

Brent wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Ummm ... Brent ... no 10,000 foot mountains in that part of DR.

But anyway, I get the idea.


The 10,000 foot mountains aren't far away.

A recon plane flies through all quadrants not just the center.


Well, yes I know that. But I didn't know thaat they choose not to fly into storms over land, and it seemed to me that one could derive useful data by flying three quadrants even if the fourth were unflyable.

Anyway, my only quibble was with the characterization of Jeanne being "over" 10,000 foot mountains.
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#9 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:50 pm

The 5pm discussion says it's "presumed" Jeanne has weakened below hurricane status.

If the plane had gone out, it would have been there at 2pm EDT.
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#10 Postby tronbunny » Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:32 pm

I just read on the NCEP communications status page that they're having trouble with Miami Area FAA comm.
Not sure if that would have anything to do with it.
http://205.156.54.206/tgstatus/
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