94L will be called Ivan,Recon delayed

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94L will be called Ivan,Recon delayed

#1 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:51 pm

Read below from the NWS discussion in New Orleans, LA

Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service New Orleans/Baton Rouge la
330 PM CDT Wednesday Sep 22 2004


Discussion...
running late so will be brief. Main concern continues to be the
remnants of Ivan. A recon is enroute but delayed and should be
within the system early this evening. Satellite presentation has
been showing a flareup of convection primarily on the northern side
of the system within the gradient flow and a definite middle-level
swirl around 26.6n 88.9w with very little deep convection on the
south and west side. Hurricane center has advised that if situation
prompts an upgrade or designation...it would be named Ivan!
The gradient winds will be steadily increasing during the night with
tides being driven upwards about a half a foot higher than previous
high tide. Will be upgrading to coastal Flood Warning for Hancock
Colorado...St Bernard and lower Jefferson Parish. Will also extend watch
westward to Morgan City to blend with weather forecast office lch issuance. Forecast
will be driven by events in the Gulf for the next day or two. Will
gradient probability of precipitation tonight and Thursday from low in the north to
categorical in the coastal waters. Thereafter little changes from
previous forecast.
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#2 Postby lilbump3000 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:53 pm

It will not be called ivan, it will be given a new name.
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#3 Postby djti » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:53 pm

not surprising.......that will be a cool "historical storms" loop!!

but probably only 50/50 that it makes it to TS.
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#4 Postby Hurricanehink » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:54 pm

Really? But it isn't directly associated with the Low level circulation. That became extratropical and headed out to sea. That's a bad call... Plus with all of the tensions raised from Ivan 1. I personally think that it should be Matthew... Oh well, they're the boss.
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#5 Postby djti » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:54 pm

"It will not be called ivan, it will be given a new name."

so the NOLA nws office is just lying? completely making things up?

hmmmm....
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#6 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:55 pm

Wow I think that is a very bad call renaming it Ivan. This is a brand new circulation center, the actual circulation from Ivan is headed off towards Europe. Whatever forms won't be too strong but when people hear that "Ivan" is back they are going to freak out. This should be called Matthew by all means.
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#7 Postby lilbump3000 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:55 pm

Well on the 12 o'clock news my met said it will be given a new name THANK YA.
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#8 Postby yoda » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:56 pm

Wha? I don't believe that... but oh well. It should be Matthew...
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#9 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:56 pm

lilbump3000 wrote:It will not be called ivan, it will be given a new name.


Read the discussion from the NWS in New Orleans, LA.

I think they would know more than you.
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#10 Postby djti » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:57 pm

this isnt a brand new circulation center....it was intact from the time it split off to now.......the sat loops are rather compelling.

also...what about jeanne? the current llc called jeanne is definitely not the original jeanne....the original llc definitely split off and is no longer there.
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#11 Postby Brent » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:57 pm

It doesn't make sense.
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#12 Postby Buck » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:58 pm

lilbump3000 wrote:Well on the 12 o'clock news my met said it will be given a new name THANK YA.


Oh and I get ALL of my information from the 12 o'clock news.


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#13 Postby lilbump3000 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:58 pm

See i dont have time to go back in foward with yall because thats what children do. Anyway time will tell if it becomes something.
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#14 Postby Cape Verde » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:58 pm

I wouldn't want it to be named Ivan, but I'm hoping it never gets named at all.
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#15 Postby Steve Cosby » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:59 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:but when people hear that "Ivan" is back they are going to freak out.


You think maybe that is the point? That people will take this seriously?
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#16 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:59 pm

I remember searching for hours a few days back when the "remnants" were off the NC coast and there was NO sign of any sort of circulation. If the NHC names it Ivan they are just trying to save names as this is not the same storm at all!
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#17 Postby djti » Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:59 pm

lilbump...i think the only point is read a post before responding to it!!

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#18 Postby lilbump3000 » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:00 pm

I did read it for one thing to let you know but what i just heard on the reboardcast news was that it will be given a new name if it develops but anyway we all hear different things so.
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#19 Postby Houstonia » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:01 pm

Steve Cosby wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:but when people hear that "Ivan" is back they are going to freak out.


You think maybe that is the point? That people will take this seriously?


That was exactly the point I was considering! This system is close to Nola and Houston - If it DOES form into something enough to be named - for God's sake - rename it IVAN - make people sit up and TAKE NOTICE.

I would bet that's their motivation in keeping it Ivan.
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#20 Postby SouthernWx » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:02 pm

It should be given a new name...not only because of the fact most of "Ivan" was shot off to the NE over the open Atlantic east of Virginia....but ALSO (and maybe more importantly), because of the psychological impact on Gulf coast residents...especially those in hard hit areas such as Gulf Shores and Pensacola.

We'll witness enough depression, suicides, alcoholism, and other forms of post-traumatic stress as it is....without those grieving and distraught folks who've lost everything having to see and hear about "Ivan reincarnated in the GOM" again...

Just my .02 cents worth....as an amateur meteorologist and as someone who once experience the stress of his home being torn apart by a nighttime tornado :eek:
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