Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...
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Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...
NORTH of WPB (West Palm Beach) and to the south of JAX (Jacksonville, FL) since 1886 ... all others have been CAT 2 or LESS ... including Frances (CAT 2) just three weeks ago ...
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Re: Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...
Stormsfury wrote:NORTH of WPB (West Palm Beach) and to the south of JAX (Jacksonville, FL) since 1886 ... all others have been CAT 2 or LESS ... including Frances (CAT 2) just three weeks ago ...
Wasn't Dora in 1964 a Category 3 Hurricane when it made landfall near St Augustine??
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Re: Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...
recmod wrote:Stormsfury wrote:NORTH of WPB (West Palm Beach) and to the south of JAX (Jacksonville, FL) since 1886 ... all others have been CAT 2 or LESS ... including Frances (CAT 2) just three weeks ago ...
Wasn't Dora in 1964 a Category 3 Hurricane when it made landfall near St Augustine??
Nope ... it was the prolonged effects of Hurricane Dora that made Dora so unique (first storm of record to move into NE FL directly from the EAST) and was thusly retired for extensive damage caused by the strong and long duration of the hurricane ... came ashore at 110 MPH (high end CAT 2) ...
http://www.glynn.k12.ga.us/BHS/academic ... /home.html
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/s ... milMo.html
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Dora was 100Mph right before landfall.
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.dat
It was a Cat 3 on its way to NE Florida.
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.dat
It was a Cat 3 on its way to NE Florida.
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Also significant:
Jeanne is the first "J" storm to hit the U.S. as a major hurricane.
The only other "J" hurricanes to hit the U.S. were Juan (1985) and Jerry (1989). Both were Category 1 hurricanes.
Jeanne is the first "J" hurricane to hit Florida.
Jeanne became the first major "J" hurricane in nearly 16 years. Before Jeanne, the last "J" hurricane that was major was Hurricane Joan in 1988.
Jeanne is the first "J" storm to hit the U.S. as a major hurricane.
The only other "J" hurricanes to hit the U.S. were Juan (1985) and Jerry (1989). Both were Category 1 hurricanes.
Jeanne is the first "J" hurricane to hit Florida.
Jeanne became the first major "J" hurricane in nearly 16 years. Before Jeanne, the last "J" hurricane that was major was Hurricane Joan in 1988.
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So when they say a storm makes "landfall" they're talking about when the eye passes over land first?? Because I really get tired of hearing people say that a hurricane isnt a point in space but a large system and then hear them say that Ivan didnt officially make landfall in Florida. Tell that to all those people that STILL dont have power or water.
Seems to me you cant have it both ways.
Seems to me you cant have it both ways.
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The official definition of landfall is when the centerpoint of the eye passes over land. There are many who disagree with this definition. I do too, but that is the official definition of landfall, so "offcially" Ivan did not landfall in Florida even though some of his worst damage was done there.
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If any part of the eyewall touches land, that can be considered a "hit"
Part of Ivan's eyewall brushed Florida. It hit Alabama.
Yet everyone on this board knows that the North and East sides of the storms are the worst other than the eyewall.
1964 had 3 "hits" from Hurricanes.
Cleo - hit Miami and rode the coast north
Dora - Hit NE Florida directly
Isbell - Hit low SW Florida.
Part of Ivan's eyewall brushed Florida. It hit Alabama.
Yet everyone on this board knows that the North and East sides of the storms are the worst other than the eyewall.
1964 had 3 "hits" from Hurricanes.
Cleo - hit Miami and rode the coast north
Dora - Hit NE Florida directly
Isbell - Hit low SW Florida.
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HurricaneJoe22 wrote:woah! those late 1880s must 've been hellish years to be in Florida....then again, I don't think there were many people in the state at that time.
There was also a severe economic recession during that period for the US as a whole. Florida began to boom during that same time mostly in Jacksonville and St Augustine. Henry Flagler of Flagler County fame came during that time . So that's where most of the non native population was. Total population about half a million or so. Not much by today's standards, for sure.
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jdray wrote:People thought Miami area was too wild for them.
Jacksonville/Green Cove Springs/St Augustine was just right for them on thier winter vacations....
And there wasn't a realistic way to get food, supplies and people to "Miami" - which wasn't even a city yet - anyway. Flagler's railroad didn't extend that far yet.
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