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Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...

#1 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:21 am

NORTH of WPB (West Palm Beach) and to the south of JAX (Jacksonville, FL) since 1886 ... all others have been CAT 2 or LESS ... including Frances (CAT 2) just three weeks ago ...
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#2 Postby yoda » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:23 am

Wow! Great info SF.. thanks.
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#3 Postby Sanibel » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:25 am

If it is true that Opal and Erin both hit Pensacola Beach in the same year, then Florida now has two sets of storms that did this...
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#4 Postby birdwomn » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:35 am

Opal & Erin both had a big impact in Pensacola, but Opal, like Ivan didn't make landfall at Pensacola directly, if memory serves me.
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#5 Postby yzerfan » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:21 am

Opaal is listed as making landfall at Navarre Beach about 15-20 miles east of Pensacola Beach.
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#6 Postby deguy50 » Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:26 am

this has truly been a season for the record books for florida
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#7 Postby Guest » Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:28 pm

I find this significant. First Major in over 100 yrs. Got the electric back. Very little damage on the island.
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Re: Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...

#8 Postby recmod » Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:51 pm

Stormsfury wrote:NORTH of WPB (West Palm Beach) and to the south of JAX (Jacksonville, FL) since 1886 ... all others have been CAT 2 or LESS ... including Frances (CAT 2) just three weeks ago ...


Wasn't Dora in 1964 a Category 3 Hurricane when it made landfall near St Augustine??
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Re: Jeanne is the 1st MAJOR to hit E Central FL ...

#9 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:02 pm

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Stormsfury wrote:NORTH of WPB (West Palm Beach) and to the south of JAX (Jacksonville, FL) since 1886 ... all others have been CAT 2 or LESS ... including Frances (CAT 2) just three weeks ago ...


Wasn't Dora in 1964 a Category 3 Hurricane when it made landfall near St Augustine??


Nope ... it was the prolonged effects of Hurricane Dora that made Dora so unique (first storm of record to move into NE FL directly from the EAST) and was thusly retired for extensive damage caused by the strong and long duration of the hurricane ... came ashore at 110 MPH (high end CAT 2) ...

http://www.glynn.k12.ga.us/BHS/academic ... /home.html

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/s ... milMo.html
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#10 Postby jdray » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:14 pm

Dora was 100Mph right before landfall.

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.dat

It was a Cat 3 on its way to NE Florida.
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#11 Postby HurricaneBill » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:22 pm

Also significant:

Jeanne is the first "J" storm to hit the U.S. as a major hurricane.

The only other "J" hurricanes to hit the U.S. were Juan (1985) and Jerry (1989). Both were Category 1 hurricanes.

Jeanne is the first "J" hurricane to hit Florida.

Jeanne became the first major "J" hurricane in nearly 16 years. Before Jeanne, the last "J" hurricane that was major was Hurricane Joan in 1988.
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#12 Postby pojo » Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:37 pm

interesting fact...

Years Florida has been hit 3 or more times by a hurricane (I mean eye wall came ashore somewhere in FL)

1886: 3 direct, 2 brush
1888: 3 direct
1889: 3 direct
2004: 3 direct (Charley, Frances, Jeanne), 1 brush (Ivan)
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#13 Postby HurricaneJoe22 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:13 am

woah! those late 1880s must 've been hellish years to be in Florida....then again, I don't think there were many people in the state at that time.
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#14 Postby alicia-w » Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:59 am

So when they say a storm makes "landfall" they're talking about when the eye passes over land first?? Because I really get tired of hearing people say that a hurricane isnt a point in space but a large system and then hear them say that Ivan didnt officially make landfall in Florida. Tell that to all those people that STILL dont have power or water.

Seems to me you cant have it both ways.
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#15 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:04 am

The official definition of landfall is when the centerpoint of the eye passes over land. There are many who disagree with this definition. I do too, but that is the official definition of landfall, so "offcially" Ivan did not landfall in Florida even though some of his worst damage was done there.
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#16 Postby jdray » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:12 am

If any part of the eyewall touches land, that can be considered a "hit"

Part of Ivan's eyewall brushed Florida. It hit Alabama.
Yet everyone on this board knows that the North and East sides of the storms are the worst other than the eyewall.


1964 had 3 "hits" from Hurricanes.
Cleo - hit Miami and rode the coast north
Dora - Hit NE Florida directly
Isbell - Hit low SW Florida.
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#17 Postby ColinD » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:15 am

HurricaneJoe22 wrote:woah! those late 1880s must 've been hellish years to be in Florida....then again, I don't think there were many people in the state at that time.


There was also a severe economic recession during that period for the US as a whole. Florida began to boom during that same time mostly in Jacksonville and St Augustine. Henry Flagler of Flagler County fame came during that time . So that's where most of the non native population was. Total population about half a million or so. Not much by today's standards, for sure.
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#18 Postby jdray » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:16 am

People thought Miami area was too wild for them.

Jacksonville/Green Cove Springs/St Augustine was just right for them on thier winter vacations....
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#19 Postby ColinD » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:18 am

jdray wrote:People thought Miami area was too wild for them.

Jacksonville/Green Cove Springs/St Augustine was just right for them on thier winter vacations....


And there wasn't a realistic way to get food, supplies and people to "Miami" - which wasn't even a city yet - anyway. Flagler's railroad didn't extend that far yet.
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#20 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:33 pm

I thought I said this a few weeks ago.. But its interesting it's been that long
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