Name all the tropical depression/storms that 93L is shaming?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Name all the depressions/storms that 93L is putting to shame over the last 12 hours...

1# Tropical storm Grace
2# Alison(2001)
3# Tropical depression 10(2004) Even so it did look much better days before...
4# Tropcial storm Earl(2004)
5# Tropical depression 7 in 6 of 2003
6# Tropical storm Ana(2003) http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropica ... 13_G12.jpg
7# Tropical depression 14(2002)
8# Tropical storm Edwards(2002)
9# Tropical depression 14(2003)
10# Tropical storm Barry(2002)
11# Tropical storm Hanna(2002)
12# Tropical storm Henri(2003)
13# Tropical depression 2(2001)
14# Tropical Storm LORENZO(2001)
15# Tropical storm Jerry(2001)
16# Tropical depression 9(2001)

Add more!!! All these storms would not even be in the same ball park as this system we got now.

[rainstorm]

good post

[Wnghs2007]

Name all the depressions/storms that 93L is putting to shame over the last 12 hours...

1# Tropical storm Grace
2# Alison(2001)
3# Tropical depression 10(2004) Even so it did look much better days before...
4# Tropcial storm Earl(2004)
5# Tropical depression 7 in 6 of 2003
6# Tropical storm Ana(2003) http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropica ... 13_G12.jpg
7# Tropical depression 14(2002)
8# Tropical storm Edwards(2002)
9# Tropical depression 14(2003)
10# Tropical storm Barry(2002)
11# Tropical storm Hanna(2002)
12# Tropical storm Henri(2003)
13# Tropical depression 2(2001)
14# Tropical Storm LORENZO(2001)
15# Tropical storm Jerry(2001)
16# Tropical depression 9(2001)

Add more!!! All these storms would not even be in the same ball park as this system we got now.

Excellent post also. Now I wonder if it can form into anything?

[HURAKAN]

Sometimes is impossible to understand the National Hurricane Center. They need to get together and discuss how to distinguish a subtropical system, from a extratropical system. Also, Subtropical Storm Nicole is another example.

[george_r_1961]

Yea Sandy I agree. There is a fine line between subtropical and tropical; and many times it is diffucult to say when an extratropical system makes the transition to subtropical or tropical. Case in point: 93L

[Gorky]

I'd personally say that this storm doesn't really constitute a Sub tropical storm myself. Just having a bit of light to moderate convection wrapping around the top isn't that impressive really. We had a storm in the UK a month ago with some really nice wrapping around the centre. Hurricane force winds sustained at the centre. It kinda reminds me of this storm in all honesty, and there is no one who would agree that that was tropical or even subtropical. Convection in association with a baroclinically driven low doesn't automatically make it a ST storm. You do have a point with some of those storms you mention, but I'd personally say it's more a case of those storms didn't really need to be named either. I think Nicole was more impressive than this too...

[Hyperstorm]

The system should be upgraded today if current trends continue. The system looks quite subtropical, with convection bursts near the center, small/tight LLC, and is over marginally warm SSTs. No one can tell me that a system that has convection build-up in the form of thundercells on top of a tight LLC, is an extratropical cyclone. I'm quite sure it is a subtropical cyclone at this time and I suspect this will be made true in post-analysis.

Adding to your list, I can mention 2001's Josephine. And wow, was that storm never deserving of a name! The majority of its lifetime was spent with the LLC exposed and minimal shower activity surrounding it. Only one "menacing" burst of sprinkles made them upgrade.

And to the poster who said that Nicole looked better than this, here's a satellite image of Nicole when it had a similar strength to the current gale...998mb.

[cycloneye]

The system should be upgraded today if current trends continue. The system looks quite subtropical, with convection bursts near the center, small/tight LLC, and is over marginally warm SSTs. No one can tell me that a system that has convection build-up in the form of thundercells on top of a tight LLC, is an extratropical cyclone. I'm quite sure it is a subtropical cyclone at this time and I suspect this will be made true in post-analysis.

Adding to your list, I can mention 2001's Josephine. Wow! That storm wasn't deserving of a name, IMO. The majority of its lifetime was spent with the LLC exposed and minimal shower activity surrounding it. Only one "menacing" burst of sprinkles made them upgrade.

And to the poster who said that Nicole looked better than this, here's a satellite image of Nicole when it had a similar strength to the current gale...998mb.

Satellite Image of Subtropical Storm Nicole on 10/11/04

Hey my friend the link is not posted .

[Hyperstorm]

I just wanted to make a title for the link, so that it isn't too long, but can't understand the process.

If you can change the link to a title that you can click on, I'll appreciate it.

"Satellite Image of Subtropical Storm Nicole"

[Gorky]

Sub tropical storm nicole did become much better organised later on as it approached Canade though. This doesn't have as much potential as Nicole in my opinion, but I'll probably be proved wrong

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

If this thing keeps up like it is going we will have a Peter type system soon.

[Hurricanehink]

Let's see...
From 2004: Earl, Hermine, TD 10, Matthew, and Nicole
From 2003: Ana, TD 2, TD 6, TD 7, TD 9, Grace, Henri, 14, and Mindy
From 2002: Josephine
From 2001: Allison, Jerry, Lorenzo, Noel
From 2000: Chris, Debby, Ernesto, Hermine, Leslie, Nadine
Countless others! Hurry NHC!

[Wnghs2007]

If this thing keeps up like it is going we will have a Peter type system soon.

Yes I agree. It is looking very well orgainized at the moment.

[MGC]

Bertha in 2002 was a pathetic system. However Allison and Barry both in 2001 were genuine systems......MGC

[Wnghs2007]

Bertha in 2002 was a pathetic system. However Allison and Barry both in 2001 were genuine systems......MGC

And I think that this system is pretty genuine itself. Should be Otto right now.

[MGC]

I think the NHC is waiting for the convection to become a little more concentrated before naming it.....MGC

[Wnghs2007]

I think the NHC is waiting for the convection to become a little more concentrated before naming it.....MGC

Well the NRL has it as 997 mb low and 45 knts as cycloneye said. That should be pretty concentrated. I mean thats 50 mph.

[Wnghs2007]

I think the NHC is waiting for the convection to become a little more concentrated before naming it.....MGC

LOL...I guess you were right...Right after I posted above the TWO said this...

THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 850 MILES EAST OF BERMUDA
CONTINUES TO SLOWLY ACQUIRE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS...HOWEVER...
THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY NEAR THE CENTER OF CIRCULATION REMAINS
LIMITED AT THIS TIME.

LOL

[Derek Ortt]

to compare Earl with this is absurred. Earl was very well organized on satellite imagery.

This one can really only be compared to Ana.

Even the grace designation isnt warranted because this is still an extra-tropical storm while Grace was merely more subtropical than tropical

[Wnghs2007]

to compare Earl with this is absurred. Earl was very well organized on satellite imagery.

This one can really only be compared to Ana.

Even the grace designation isnt warranted because this is still an extra-tropical storm while Grace was merely more subtropical than tropical

I agree with the Earl part. Hmmm. I wonder if this will become anything..