GFDL= Hurricane New Orleans

[tallywx]

The GFDL must be good for something if it's used by forecasters. Does it have any particular strengths?

Yeah, it lets them know what's NOT going to happen

Seriously, though, that's a good question...

[StormChasr]

The GFDL must be good for something if it's used by forecasters. Does it have any particular strengths?

Comedic value? Kind of like the stand up comic of weather forecasting?

[HurryKane]

The GFDL must be good for something if it's used by forecasters. Does it have any particular strengths?

Comedic value? Kind of like the stand up comic of weather forecasting?

I always look at GFDL like one of those little toy cars that you pull backwards to build up tension in the spring-driven wheels, then let it go while it runs amok. It gets the general idea of "forward" correct but then goes a little bat-guano crazy trying to get there.

But that's just me.

[Anonymous]

I would not bash the GFDL. It correctly showed a Cat 4 landfall for Charley, and took Ivan to Cat 5 in the Caribbean.

[senorpepr]

I would not bash the GFDL. It correctly showed a Cat 4 landfall for Charley, and took Ivan to Cat 5 in the Caribbean.

Great point, Mike. Every model has it's shining moments and it's not so shining moments. It's best to look all the models, see which models initialize well, which models paint a non-out-of-whack solution, and which models paint a similiar solution to other models. After that, you can get a better feel (although not a definate feel) of what model will pan out correctly.

[HurryKane]

I would not bash the GFDL. It correctly showed a Cat 4 landfall for Charley, and took Ivan to Cat 5 in the Caribbean.

Sigh. Well, can I still pick on A98E then?

[The Big Dog]

Has anybody noticed that it maintains the storm as a hurricane all the way into Missouri? St. Louis better head to the Home Depot now. Must be feeding off the Mississippi River. Eh, I dunno.

[vbhoutex]

Has anybody noticed that it maintains the storm as a hurricane all the way into Missouri? St. Louis better head to the Home Depot now. Must be feeding off the Mississippi River. Eh, I dunno.

I was wondering if anyone else had seen that!!!!LOLOL!!!!!

[Derek Ortt]

I wonder if thats an uncoupled GFDL run, based upon the atmosphere only

The only way I can currently see this becoming a cane is if the QG parameters set up perfectly, but that would also tend to result in a more NE motion

[Anonymous]

I wonder if thats an uncoupled GFDL run, based upon the atmosphere only

The only way I can currently see this becoming a cane is if the QG parameters set up perfectly, but that would also tend to result in a more NE motion

Where do you get your info from?

[mobilebay]

I wonder if thats an uncoupled GFDL run, based upon the atmosphere only

The only way I can currently see this becoming a cane is if the QG parameters set up perfectly, but that would also tend to result in a more NE motion

Where do you get your info from?

He is a PRO MET and knows this.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if thats an uncoupled GFDL run, based upon the atmosphere only

The only way I can currently see this becoming a cane is if the QG parameters set up perfectly, but that would also tend to result in a more NE motion

Where do you get your info from?

He is a PRO MET and knows this.

I had a whole paragraph written here but thats ok--all I can say is: WHATEVER!!!

[mobilebay]

I wonder if thats an uncoupled GFDL run, based upon the atmosphere only

The only way I can currently see this becoming a cane is if the QG parameters set up perfectly, but that would also tend to result in a more NE motion

Where do you get your info from?

He is a PRO MET and knows this.

I had a whole paragraph written here but thats ok--all I can say is: WHATEVER!!!

LOL!!!

[Derek Ortt]

that info comes directly from the equations governing the atmosphere.

QG intensification is caused primarily either by warm advection at the surface or vorticity advection

[Anonymous]

that info comes directly from the equations governing the atmosphere.

QG intensification is caused primarily either by warm advection at the surface or vorticity advection

But do tropical systems go by these equations?? they are unusual occurances kinda freaks of nature...they dont occur everyday! Aerographers mates in the navy leave the forecasting of tropical systems up to those who know best---the NHC and also have a conference call with them everytime there is one available. NOT implying that you dont know what your are talking about--not at all but why are you so harshly disagreeing with the NHC?

[Derek Ortt]

I'm not disagreeing with them at all. I am saying any development would be slow.

TC's do go by those equations when they start interacting with troughs and are not entirely tropical. Only a purely barotropic equation does not go by the tendency and omega equations.

About disagreeing at times with NHC, a good scientist NEVER takes someone else's word as gospel. They always perform an analysis to determine whether the claim can be verified, or questioned

[LaPlaceFF]

I saw some Wal Mart hiding in the claims area of my Wal Mart today.. Maybe I'll "borrow" it till November lol

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[Derek Ortt]

Miami-Dade was the least affected

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

New orleans is falling into the sea anyways. I read it a few days ago

[Foladar]

Oh...really? I thought all of the SE coast got affected by both Jeanne and Frances...sorry, guess I was wrong...wait are you sure? B/C Miami/Dade did get alot of rain out of Jeanne and Frances right? Western Collier/Naples Metro barely got anything noticeable out of either system...I thought.

Kevin Cho - East Naples, FL
Junior: Naples High School

South Miami Dade here and we got absolutely nothing.
People were actually outside BBQing during Frances .. we did get some rain but from Jeanne I remember pretty much nothing. Gas was aplenty. We were suppose to get tons from Frances so everyone was prepared, but it decided to run away last second. I would say Miami Dade did get the least, esp. south Miami Dade.